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RangoTangoGanko·3/3/2017, 5:24:37 PM·5 votes·1,331 views
Riot Risks Stifling Creativity In League By Banning Players With Unconventional Strategies

Today I saw this and I would Like to give my view on this to Riot or any others in the community. This game would not be where it is if it were not for people playing unhealthy and healthy game play. It causes us to see where the strongest potential for teams to excel and teams to fail. This is not a different game from other games it's all about stats and numbers still, it has not changed since the 80's. To say punishing people for trying to shape and evolve the games meta and way to be played is far more interesting than always playing the same 5 man roles in the game. Playing the game with constant structure makes it lack having any fun, and going out of the structure I must fear my account being banned after I gave the company money. All I try is to change the role meta lets say. Well I think it would be a funner game if the duo lanes always changed and the same meta and non meta champs were not picked, while one trick pony champs sit off to the side as utility to a meta champ. Bottom Line and my point The game evolved and got here from people playing the unhealthy and healthy game mechanics, to keep changing the game to stay in the current meta but make it so all the champs are balanced in only these 5 roles, makes it so you lack any interesting game play. No one should be punished for finding a new unhealthy meta or a new healthy meta because either way this is how the game evolves and always had. Now it seems money and being the big top game has changed peoples view, and them also viewing this as a sport and all these other things that I came here to play a game that is far better than any game i played because it lets you create your own difference in builds and ways to play the game, but we shouldn't be punishing accounts for wanting to try new things. Abusing, unhealthy game play now yeah it makes sense to ban those accounts but rather banning them we can learn how they expose broken tings in our meta, so change what they are abusing because eventually another champ can come and do the same thing when they finally fall in position to be that meta winning pick. I'm sorry for it being ranty, but It's been 2 years solid I have seen this going on and I think i's a little ridiculous. The new players are getting mixed with advanced or older players causing people to feel it is unfair, but this game comes down to numbers and stats at the root heart core of it so simple math can help you win the game if you learn every champ and Item. That is why we also have practice tool, to try out the viability of builds on champs. Ok well I am done, and i hope you all Rank up and have a great day on the Rift, please let me know of unhealthy experiences that you feel should not be in the game because you feel it exploits to many problems in the game. That way we can change the game not for the meta for for the games actually balance and how it should be played with the opportunity of freedom. *Disclaimer this does not apply to ranked games, I am talking about Normals.

20 Comments

Martensitic3/3/2017, 5:40:34 PM3 votes

Playing the game with constant structure makes it lack having any fun

And this is where your argument falls apart. Because: No, it doesn't.

#Gaming systems do not require constant radical change to remain interesting.

"Go" has used the same rules for 2500 years, and it is still played by hundreds of millions of people. Soccer and American Football have billions of fans, and use rulesets that have barely changed over centuries. Isometric HnS RPGs such as Diablo were invented in the late 80s and remain a staple of gaming to this day. The same is true for most Basebuilding RTS games.

I can already guess the next question: "Maybe that is not true for some people however. Maybe they like to constantly change how a game is played, beyond the degrees of freedom the game offers. What about those guys?"

Could you play Go with a circular board? Probably, yes. Would most people who like to play Go want to play like that? Most likely not.

In a game where you get to chose the other participants, and more importantly, they get to chose or reject you, you can invent whatever change, adaptation, or rewrite of the games systems you want. Because, if the others don't like your rules, they won't play with you anyway.

But as soon as others HAVE to participate, for example, in an automated matchmaking system, you no longer get to do that.

Because with others having no say on wheter or not they want to play with you, you either accept the set of rules that a vast majority of players agrees on, or you no longer get to play. In the case of automated systems, this is often implemented by banning players from the matchmaking pool.

And they agree on that set of rules, because they like it, they have fun with it. And the fun of the many, is simply considered more important that the fun of the few. Its as simple as that.

0GvDeKTNBD3/3/2017, 8:02:44 PM2 votes

One time i had a funny idea to go full AP Zed, and go item 3100 item 3152 item 3157 . It sounded pretty fun because i could use my shadows to go in and out for lich bane and try to pop somone with proto belt. Doing this almost woulda 100% made my team lose their ranked match, is my fun more important the the 4 others? Cause I can assure you that a majority of the community would not find their full AP zed on their team fun, or their loss of LP.

Where do you draw the line? Full AP zed that has no AP scaling, Singed support that never helps adc, picking weaker champs like galio mid? This is why there is arguements. I think as long as you don't ruin the fun of your teammates it won't matter what you play just think of that before you pick what you do.

ModKnightsKemplar3/4/2017, 4:51:26 PM2 votes

If he's being toxic, then it has nothing to do with what he picked. Idc what he picked, tbh. Doesn't matter at all. What matters is whether or not he's willing to play with his team in this TEAM GAME.

You don't get to lone wolf in League. If that's what you want to do, either find a clan you can play with that will work with you, or find a new game. It's ludicrous to paint Riot as the bad guy for trying to keep this type of player from ruining people's games. And it's pretty clear that he was ruining games from the number of reports he got.

I agree that they didn't handle the aftermath well. They need to address the problem better, and talk about the "burden of communication" and whatnot. But the relevant thing here is that people HATED PLAYING WITH THIS GUY. People LOVE winning with weird comps when the person doing it communicates and plays nice. People hate playing with toxic players no matter what they play. It has nothing to do with nunu or smite.