Question for all the board : Which adc should be the strongest?
Warning Long test
Hello board.
I'm just an ordinary player who enjoy spending his time in the board from one year (Somehow i really like spending time on this).
I play a lot of adc and i've seen a few time them becoming op and weak at the same time.
This post is open to all the champ class main (not only the adc class).
There could be a lot of my opinion in some specific champ line but mostly are just general complain.
I dedicate a lot of my love for the game on this post listening a lot of the complain about determined adc and adc meta, i didn't include all and some of them could be wrong due to my bad memory and i could probably going off topic with that but i will try to not bother you with that.
Just for notice i'm not going against all the class and people with that and if you fell offesive with this then i'm really sorry but i never made a class post before.
When an adc become op i see a LOT of post going against this type of adc asking for nerf,delete or straight up minor rework just like Ezreal.
I'm not going to dubt about this, sometime it's true and sometime it's an over exaggerated request (we saw a lot of type how minor nerf such as -3 ad mean a lot on a champ despite board request a big nerf).
When a champ became op it's mostly of the time compared to an High Winrate and an High Playrate (ex 
atm).
As i notice from the past 3 season (we just had a multiple adc meta swap from this 3 season) we will never live in a perfect balance.
We just will have a weak group of adc ad a strong group.
Actually noone really care about the weak group (maybe because there is always 
in this group) but everyone actually care about the strong one (especially the Strongest champ).
Everytime a strong champ got nerf we'll see another one took his/her place (small example 
when she got her range nerfed 
became the strongest) so it's just a cycle.
A bit of the adc story for the past 2-3 season
When we had the meme of adc 2k17 we had some adc just like ashe or varus taking over the place because their kit helped a lot their team.
In this meta picking an adc that wasn't an utility champ was legit trolling or onetrick.
The only two adc that wasn't utility that really mattered was and 
.
This was the first time that a mage was getting attention at the bot lane (
).
From this moment the adc hate has begun with the crit item buff.
When we had the ardent censar meta, On hit adc was the strongest adc of all the time and in particular 
and 
Those two adc was hated a lot because of the wrong reason.
They both got nerfed and their item got nerfed due to player request but the only one nerf that was needed was 
.
Varus later on got small buff patch after patch but his adc playstyle is not a valid option (u can still play for fun but it's better opt for lethality atm).
When we had the Crit update (8.11) born because they was too strong we just lost half of the adc roaster and we got a meta based on tankyness or on hit build (
) or a lethality meta (
) and only 1 crit adc was playable (
).
After that people complained about those champ for half season (mostly because their item actually matter early and late game while crit adc only matter into the late game) and after that mage and other champ (irelia,yasuo,mordekaiser) start breaking into bot lane making the crit life a living hell.
Despite having non adc bot lane dominate the lane (even tho they had small playrate compared to actual adc), We (i did that too) actualy cared only on the actual adc that are on the meta.
This was the moment when we saw a lot of buff (Tristana,Caitlyn,Jinx,Varus,Vayne,Corki).
When we getting the crit revert we just saw a swap between early game adc toward late game adc because they could get their item early.
The actual strongest adcs are Vayne Jinx Sivir who are late game adcs since farming outscaled early aggression (lucian,Missfortune,Draven).
So now let's get on the topic. We saw literally a different meta where almost every single adc was meta and sometime too strong. After this experience i think we can all say which adc for us should matter the most (being the strongest). Graves and Quinn and corki will be out of this list because they're not anymore bot lane champ.
Early-Mid game adc
When whe have this class on champ on meta we just see low macrogame focus (mostly only laning face matter and afk brain enemy killer) this is because Late game adc doesn't matter, Early aggression is too much strong, Tank doesn't matter (tank help a lot late game adc and cause a lot of trouble to early game adc), roaming is the best strat, assasin stay alot relevant (there is a lot of misspositioning) ,ecc.
When this champ is on meta, people complain about how much dmg he do and how much snowball is for being an early game champ.
When this champ is on meta, people complain mostly on how much dmg he do for how much flashy he is, how much tanky he get for being a mobile adc (bruiser killer).
I think a kalista meta would probably never going to happen unless some sort of bug that allow her to do that or a rework. This is because of: infinitive dash,Objective secure (drake and baron), Knock up and Free safety net through ult and vision.
Even tho jhin is a crit adc he acually matter mostly on early and mid game. He was never really strong but when it was he got a lot of hate. Lethality jhin brough a lot of dmg along with utility which saw a lot of nerf.
The 8.11 adc patch was the strongest jhin patch and he saw a lot of memeing about one item (
turn him into the fast that deal dmg killing his weakness).
This champ even tho as a lot of weakness was hated for doing her job too well. We all know about the Q bonce on minion oneshot which was overpowered and because of that people complained a lot on her. Even tho MF strongest skill come from her ult, if we would se a MF meta would only be for her Q dmg or her E utility (the most nerfed MF spell).
Ezreal,Caitlyn,varus
Those three are almost special case.
Lethality build : People complained about how much dmg he do from safety range making laning phase against him almost a nightmare,He was a ranged mage with assassin level of dmg (low playrate on bot with this build but it was still meaningful).
On hit build: People never hated varus on hit but they mostly hated 
, howewer if this item wasn't viable we would never see on hit varus so he would probably stick as utility champ.
Utility: No real hate for this build unless pro play.
The item breaker, The most safe adc of the game, The high range Klepto abuser, A mixed dmg carry (even if he's not that much mixed), after vayne (and maybe kai'sa) he is the most hated adc in the game despite having the only AA (i'll count his Q as an AA because he rely on this just like adc rely on their AA) that can be dodje (kalista too but in a weird way).
Don't forget that because of the fact that he can abuse different item, he stay quite relevant for almost all the game phase.
She fit a lot into late game class but she is a early and late game adc, A cait meta was a nightmare just like a lucian meta however she wouldn't allow ANY adc on her lane due to high harass,safety range,an escape,CC+Dmg W that she could also use for zoning her opponent and she mattered on lategame too.
Currently she fit more the late game adc (due to her different nerf on early game) but if she's on the meta is surely for her early game or for overloaded buff that wasn't necessary.
Late game adc
Tank mostly of the time matter,Mage matter more,Assassin and bruiser are weak,low aggression more farming power,Enchanter matter,Macro game matter (Teamfight and baron battle).
Same issue as caitlyn safety area but tristana got a better mobility spell and assassin level potential other than an ult that safe her in a lot of scenario.
Vayne 2.0, Self peel check, mixed dmg check, Stealth effect check, Attack speed steroid check, Point and click Shield check, Alt F4 check (sry i had to, it's one hour that i'm writing this).
The most hated adc on the surface, she can do almost all the adc job perfect,True dmg % hp,Guinshoo sinergy,Mobility,Cc,Permastealth,ad steroid boost,tower pushing.
he's Useless or Op, if he's useless noone will talk about him (just like now),if he's op well why you should play another adc? He rely too much on item power rather than kit power ( 
or champion power 
). If he's on meta we will see the protect adc strat just like ardent censar meta.
Taking a rengar level of dmg on an aoe area of damage with 800 of range that can also go stealth and get an atk speed steroid, that's twitch.
I miss some data for the last adcs or i never see complain about them
Waiting for news because she's reaching the S tier, i almost fell like she is the fair adc in the game because she has dmg but she sacrifice with manacost,atk speed reduction,delay cc,no dash,a passive with a request (kill an enemy to trigger).
I'm not sure if ashe has been hated, just like jinx i fell that this two adc are okay (weak dmg but a lot of utility). Probably has been hated by melee user but i don't think so because she is immobile so they can catch her up.
I never see sivir complain when she was op (i never read the board that moment) but i will try to imaginate that, maybe some complain about her pushing power or her E shield.
Not sure about her, i heard some complain about her Ult safety net but nothing very special.
That's a long post, it took me 1 hour and 20 min for making this, fell free to comment and share to me which one adc should be on meta considering the reason for why he should be and which thing should make him on meta (for example vayne is meta due to her R buff and sinergy).
Winrate and Pickrate could matter on this case.
Having all the adc on meta is quite impossible due to some adc that make it impossible (such as cait meta or tristana meta).
I Always fell that the board like immobile champ more than mobile one so i fell that it should be an immobile champ
I would also know if you pref more like of late game playstyle (Hyper carry) or early game playstyle (Lane bully).
I usually like more the late game playstyle because team matter a lot with this but just like early game playstyle some class would be played and some not.
Ty for reading.
