There is no statistical evidence that even remotely points to her being broken. She's sub-50% winrate and the only value she has is a super telegraphed nuke that's extremely easy to avoid. Her passive doesn't do much, her W is only good when allowed to be through RNG, her E is minion-blockable and single target CC, and her ult is only used for range increases that can get her trapped and killed if tried to use as an escape by a new to zoe player.
She's sub-50% winrate
That is an argument about strength not if she is broken or not.
Imagine a champion who every minute after 10 min rolls a d20 and on crit wins the game. They could be at a 50% winrate but that mechanic would break the fundamentals of the game. All your setting up for dragon or baron or first blood or inhib sieges all rendered completely meaningless because of the mechanic of this hypothetical champion.
That's what broken means. Broken invalidates gameplay. Broken does not mean overpowered.
I agree but you’re just gonna get spammed with “ But i don’t find it fun”
I don’t think anything is supposed to be fun to fight against.
Zoe is not broken when it comes to winning games but about, 60% or above of her damage is pumped into one ability. Meaning that making the mistake of being unable to dodge a "super telegraphed nuke that's extremely easy to avoid" (with no proof whatsoever to back up this claim) is going to make you end up dead, and Zoe being practically untouched if she has ult. One point you will never be able to prove wrong is Zoe deleting people with 1 ability and that is pretty final.
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Her design is broken, not in the sense that she's objectively stronger than other picks, but that about 90% of her power budget is in a single ability, which then skews player's perception when they see they whole hp bar go down when they don't dodge that one skillshot.
Think of it as the Blitzcrank syndrome in which his whole identity and power is based around his hook.
"No statistical evidence"
m8, she's sitting at a near 54% winrate right now. Don't act like she's weak. It's just that it took awhile for the playerbase to properly learn her as a whole, hence why she was at a 47% winrate last patch.
"....her W is only good when allowed to be through RNG"
And RNG can fuck right off out of our game. I don't want to lose lane just because Zoe picked up a Teleport, backed and got an item advantage on me or because she got 2 flashes etc.
"....her E is minion-blockable and single target CC"
Sure, it's minion blockable, but that doesn't matter when the AOE of her Q is so obnoxious that you're more or less forced into standing to the sides of your creep wave.
There are many champions that have come out and proceeded to have bad win rates immediately after (shes still very new) because a ton of people are trying her just because she's new, only to be left alone for months or slightly buffed (already happened in Zoe's case, most of the changes since her release have been more buff than nerf) only to then be picked up months later by a dedicated main player base and have a huge unhealthy win rate just because their kits are inherently overloaded. This was the case with both Xayah and Ivern for instance. Both had awful win rates the first couple of months after release, Xayah has either been in the top 5 or top 10 ADCs for quite a while now, and Ivern pretty much-dominated jungle for an entire season after having a couple of months at 35 to 40% win rate.
There are also other statistical factors to consider when we are talking about the average power of a champions kit. Overall win rate for a champion can be deceptive in terms of a champion's power on their kit in many instances.
I'm pretty sure that when that noob called Faker said that she is broken and she needs to be nerfed asap was just bitter about being a bad player and not being able to dodge her skillshots or outplay her rng that can literally turn a winning move in a losing move with the flip of a coin.
BBBUT IF LUX WAS RELEASED TODAY XDXDXD KEK.
-1 In what way does this announcement (opinion) service the public?
-2 But more seriously, her DESIGN is busted because of only having one damage ability and absurd range, and her windows of strength are busted because her cd is too low and her sleep spell is rewarded with an AoE that lasts 5 SeCONDS. When you dump too much power into one ability, there is no way for it to be properly balanced. I have ZERO problem with her one COMBOING adcs, but she shouldn't be able to miss her E entirely and then hit someone from the fog of war and literally one shot them..
I also think as people get better and better at her, her win rate will slowly increase (especially if she keeps seeing more and more pro play) its seems natural that her win rate will be a little lower with so many people new to her trying her out and picking her up
There is no statistical evidence that even remotely points to her being broken. She's sub-50% winrate
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the only value she has is a super telegraphed nuke that's extremely easy to avoid.
Can't see it coming until ~.25 seconds before it hits you if she can do the qqr combo. Which is still incredibly easy, you just need to press r as the star is passing you.
Her passive doesn't do much, her W is only good when allowed to be through RNG
Her passive might not do much by itself, but when combined with w (the bubbles proc passive) you can run through a field of sums in teamfights and get a crazy amount of free AoE damage. Note I don't think this is bad, it actually allows her to have skill expression.
her E is minion-blockable and single target CC
4 second total cc with an above average projectile speed and ~2 second down time in the mid game. Not to mention getting hit is basically an assured death.
and her ult is only used for range increases
I see you are not familiar with Zoe, her ult has a plethora of uses that extend beyond just a "range increase". Maybe you should go watch some high level game play before making a thread.
I mean, I beat her all the time.
BUT MY BRAIN DEAD TEAMMATES GIVE HER 8 KILLS IN 15 MINUTES.
She's broken just not overpowered like old yorick
Anyone who bursts the holy gods that are known as adcs are broken, that's why assassins need burst windows and "counterplay" so those leet auto attack right click Penta outplays can exist.
Bad players will keep complaining about zoe meanwhile azir and malz exists lol.
