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I recently went into a game as Teemo with Lee Sin....

Av3nger77·8/31/2015, 7:59:21 AM·1 votes·776 views

Hi Riot Community,

So I went into a game with a Le sin Jungler and Myself as Teemo Top. I had played a match previously with the exact same dude, except with Riven instead of Teemo, and he insisted that I (the top laner) help him with a leash. I said the bottom lane does that seeing as they have 2 heroes for a quick kill before they have to farm minions.

So once again, I as Teemo-Top was asked to leash him, to which I replied no (seeing as the previous was much harder to farm due to missed out beginning farm) Anyway Lee sin acted like a noob the entire game but the beginning of the game was what pissed me off. He threatened to report if I didn't help and kept spamming me with "Teemo help" and "Omg Noob" (Even though is Winrate was appalling) so I helped him a bit and left to get my farm. (He stupidly didn't get and health bottles and blamed ME for his low health after) And to top it off, he ALWAYS fed and stole kiils (which isn't normally terrible, but he was feeding and was 3 levels behind), because he would try gank a mid laner (level 11) while he was half health ( and level 8) and eventually I had to pick up the slack and blind the mid laner to stop the feeding (He said "OMG noob" after I did this").

Here are thoughts I had. Should I ,as a top laner, help jungler with first leash?

Second, cant we add a category to the Report system called "Not willing to cooperate with Team"? Or something for these loud-mouthed, feeding, annoying F$%^tards that blame everyone for a loss and claim to be the MVP with a Win and (Worst of all) insult the REAL MVP of the game?

Lastly, if you are ANY type of player, PLEASE learn to work as a TEAM player. If you weren't quick enough to pick the lane you want, ask for it BUT FILL IN IF HE/SHE SAYS NO. If you not doing so great DONT BLAME OTHER PEOPLE. DONT INITIATE A FIGHT AT HALF HEALT OR IF YOU ARE AGAINST A HIGHER LEVEL.

To those who ARE good teamplayers, look me up and maybe we can play a match or two :)

Av3nger77

Edit 1

Hi and thanks for the reply. Fair enough, sometimes its needed, but this guy wasn't going Gromp, he went for the Krugs.

Hmm, ok, ill take that into account for future reference guys.

7 Comments

Sniper 08/31/2015, 8:07:29 AM3 votes

If he's asking you to leash gromp you can throw a few aa's and make it back to lane in a reasonable amount of time. I really don't like leashing the main buffs because the shit is slow. ==

He handled it very poorly though I would never expect my top laner to leash my blue/red for me. You're kind of putting them at a disadvantage. (unless you plan on ganking for them immediately to help with the slack)

Jungle main. If you're not gonna at least through an aa or a q at gromp then I probably would ignore lane. I don't really expect a lot but the leash helps confidence. :P It's like "ohh damn, I got a team here"

RogueWill8/31/2015, 8:42:11 AM2 votes

Should you leash? Yes. For several reason you want to start from different camp.

Maybe you are thinking on a lvl 2 gank on top so you ask for a leash on Krugs (you lose 1 maybe 2 cs top) then get red and back to gank. You in exchange for those 2cs get the second wave advantage.

You have a champion with a specific camp route. I'm thinking on the lines of Fiddlesticks (which want blue second) or amumu (which want it first).

You are afraid of a enemy invade so you switch the buffs to avoid being predictable.

I really don't expect you to stay until I finish killing the camp thou. Is normally a couple of aa and an ability or 3 aa and that should be enough. For teemo it should be aa,blind,aa if you started blind or 2 aa if you started poison (to avoid ks by mistake) or 3aa if you started with your sprint for whatever reason.

Trebbi8/31/2015, 11:59:48 AM2 votes

Most of the time you dont even loose CS leashing anyway as toplaner seeing as you are even ranged in this scenario so its not like the enemy toplaner can zone you much, the minions have to dmg each other(which can be varied), but usually just start running slightly before they hit each other.

I don't expect you to use spells either, because thats an indication of where I started so just 2 or 3 AA is fine.

IcyPepper8/31/2015, 8:03:22 AM1 votes

Here are 2 thoughts I had and a question. Should I ,as a top laner, help jungler with first leash?

Sometimes the top laner leashes. There's no rule that says that bot lane must leash. Sure, it's more efficient, but if a jungler wants a specific clear path (Fiddlesticks, for instance, wants to clear blue camp second)... If you're top lane and leash because you're by blue buff, don't stay as long helping so you can get to lane faste. They can smite red to make up the health difference (gromp buff helps kill blue buff, then red smite heals ya up!).

And keep mind, for your second question, that you weren't exactly cooperating with him at first. You did the right thing and helped him out anyway, but the two of you (and especially him) could have handled it better.

AkabaneKun8/31/2015, 9:01:22 AM1 votes

I leash 90% of the times, what i get in return 90% of the times is 0 ganks...good times.

Mecha MaIphite8/31/2015, 3:19:54 PM1 votes

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learn to work as a TEAM player

you should take some of your own advice

i even go leash when i'm playing nasus, because i know at worst i'll miss like 1 cs

Koldheartedjsp8/31/2015, 8:28:54 AM1 votes

the laner closest to the jungler should leash.

Not all junglers start bottom because the wrong buff is on that side sometimes.