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When is it not your fault?

SKG H2oceans·4/9/2017, 6:00:53 AM·1 votes·1,509 views
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So here is a question I've been meaning to ask or rather have been meaning to get an answer to. When, in a ranked game, is it not your fault for the loss? Every time you look up "how to get better at league" or something to that effect the typical answer is something like, work on lane phase and cs, roam more and learn to carry. This is all fine and good and for the most part an acceptable answer, but sometimes there are those games where I feel I did everything I could to win and due to something out of my control my team takes the L. Now I know already I'm going to get "Bronze problems" in the replies but I am legitimately asking for help, either what could I due to improve my play or if I just have to accept the fact that I will simply lose some games b/c of something I can not change. Please don't misunderstand I don't by any means think I'm good I know I'm B2 garbage but that solidifies my query as to how to get better or will I have to get used to the idea that some of the L's I take will be out of my control? Again please don't view the linked match history as a tool to flame or for me to say "look at those kills!" b/c that's not why it's posted rather it's there to give a baseline. In the last three games in particular I felt I was playing out of my mind taking obj. (or sometimes just pinging the hell out of them) and helping my team with tp ganks and solid pressure. That was a lot of text but thanks for reading and replying lol!

TLDR: Is it always my fault for losing b/c I'm bad or do I have to accept that I will lose some games b/c something is out of my control? [slayer-pantheon-rainbows]

7 Comments

DurpDur4/9/2017, 6:51:10 AM2 votes

I'm going to simplify things. Here's a list of things you should work on, I'm working on it too.

1.) Wave Control - Bouncing the wave, freezing, etc. Denies so much CS if done correctly, and sets up easy ganks for your jg. Which can in turn transition other lanes snowballing due to a fed jg.

2.) Warding and JG route knowledge - Basically if the jungler and mid shows bot you probably don't have to waste trinket xd. It's also useful to know that if lee starts bot, he's pretty likely to gank you at 3:20 if mid is not pushed.

3.) Champion Mechanics and Animation Canceling - Also refereed to as micro. Basically, dodging skill shots, getting the auto resets when you should, landing a key CC, etc etc. (A REALLY important one is dealing with dives and ganks, if you are able to trade or even out play them and get a double, it sets you really far ahead [trading even is if both sides get a kill and you don't miss too much cs and experience.])

4.) Split Pushing - From warding spots, micro skill dodging(Don't get hit by that Thresh , to itemization and when you should group. THIS WINS THE MOST GAMES GOLD V & BELOW. Getting caught while doing splitting means you didn't play well, and can very easily lose the game or throw a lead.

5.) Invading - This I almost never see people do, get a deep ward in their jg, and discourage that yi for ever leaving jg pre-20 min. I managed to take krugs and red when the jg mid showed bot and my lane was pushed in. The red also gave me the on-hit slow that transitioned into a kill. (I main top and play a bit of jg)

6.) Team fighting & Champ Select - You probably shouldn't pick Talon mid into a Garen top, JarvanIV jg, Jinx bot and Sion Support. Itemization can be really easy if a full ad/ap comp is picked. Which then brings to the question of team fighting, are you placing yourself behind your Nautilus when you are a carry? Did you have to blow sums before a major team fight?

7.) Shot calling - Realize that the enemy jg and only frontline is dead? And your team is still running it down mid like big daddy taught them trying to get that mid tier 2 from a cait zyra? Spam ping on their faces for a baron call, some times, you need to be a bit more aggressive to get your teammates' only synapse firing.

After all that, are you doing all of it correctly? If you are, it shouldn't be hard to come out of the game 20+/10-/10+ KDA with 200+ CS. Which although might not give you a 100% winrate in games, it will probably at least give you a 80+% win rate and will very well propel you out of bronze.

TheUltimateLife4/9/2017, 8:13:43 AM2 votes

Really doubt any response is needed beyond what DurpDur gave you there, but I'll just add that I know exactly what you mean. Those "high elo" advice threads and other stuff like that almost always make it sound 100% your fault and any loss could've been avoided if you played it well enough.

But also consider a climbing winrate is like pretty much anything over 50% and 50ish % is what's deemed to be healthy for when you're finally in a bracket of your skill caliber. No one can win 100% of the time regardless of how they play it. Is it true that your typical loss probably could've been avoided had you done something godly and showed your Challenger side and carried your team? Yes, I'll agree with that. But I always hate how people make it sound like that's ALWAYS possible. Like if your team just all afk's and feeds and says "dam I really don't want to win" (has literally happened to me before... in Gold elo... multiple times), there's nothing you can do about that. That's a rather extreme example but you only need one to prove you can't "always" win.

Now as far as your personal experience, no one can possibly answer this question for your situation since we haven't seen these games in full. Anything could've happened early to help you snowball, and maybe you fell off while pressuring the wrong objectives; that's why I said the advice in the other comment seems pretty all-encompassing. All we can do is give advice. No one can really say it was unwinnable if we didn't see it for ourselves. Just try not to let such sayings tilt (even though they've tilted me lol) because No, you can't win 'em all. You can try your best to snowball as insurance for when someone gives up/feeds/quits so that you can still win, but when things like that spiral out of your control, minor mistakes become game-changers and games get hard. Good luck