Let me ask you this. My buddy got placed B5 after going 8/10 in his promos. I don't think that's fair. I made a new account went 3/10 and was placed into silver 5. So why is riot trying to keep bronze players down? does going 8/10 not prove the improvement of a player or does riot just not care about its low elo players? Let me know what you think.
Thrëat3 votesBecause this system is based on MMR. If your friend was low bronze last season then he went 8-2 against low bronze players. What sense would it make to have it so that going 8-2 vs bronze 5 would give you silver? In order to get in silver you need to go against and beat silvers. New accounts start at around Silver 3 / Silver 2. It takes going 2-8 to place in bronze, anything better gives you silver. Riot made it really easy to not be bronze for people's first season.
RealHarsh1 votesSo why keep a bronze account why not just make a new account. Your elo starts higher and you are better knowledge based so I find that riots mmr based decisions halts people from getting better forcing players who have actually improved to climb against harsh winds.
Mysticman893 votesPeople tend to be attached to their accounts, and the number of games to fix your mmr to your 'true' mmr is almost always going to be significantly less than the number of games required to get to level 30.
Not to mention the value of accumulated IP or even any RP spent on the account.
RealHarsh1 votesyea that makes sense just unfortunate seeing as new players who may actually not be as good could be ranked higher because of the "new is good" rule.
Mysticman891 votesIt's much easier to climb than to be demoted. Due to all the shielding and the huge MMR deficit you need to actually be demoted tiers theres a lot of bronze players 'stuck' in silver (and silver players 'stuck' in gold, and golds in plat, etc), so the season resets are also useful for unsticking people.
Up to gold on the other hand people even get promo helper for free wins for their promo series, so it's not that unreasonable for genuinely silver 1 or silver 2 level players to just play enough that they happen to get a lucky streak to get promoted to gold, despite not 'deserving' it.
Theres not much special for being a silver player compared to bronze, so it's not really a problem that some bronze level players get placed into silver initially. In subsequent seasons they'll be at a more appropriate level (although they've hopefully improved by then).
Also keep in mind matchmaking is all MMR based, and ranks are strictly cosmetic.
Thrëat1 votesSo why keep a bronze account why not just make a new account. Your elo starts higher and you are better knowledge based so I find that riots mmr based decisions halts people from getting better forcing players who have actually improved to climb against harsh winds.
People keep accounts because they get runes / champions and already did the level 30 grind. Yes if they start fresh they will have a chance at getting silver. But honestly, it is not hard to climb out of silver. Someone that has mid silver skill will get to bronze 1 / silver 5 before having any problems at all proceeding. If your friend is having a difficult time climbing out of bronze 5 then he would just be a handicap for his team if he made a new account. Yes he will probably get silver 5 after placements, but he won't climb and if he plays enough he'll just drop to bronze again, so what is the point?
And people say it is unfair that high elo gets to place in high elo still. Well I do smurfs every single season and trust me, it isn't hard to climb through the ranks if you are actually a higher skill level. One of my accounts is Gold 3 with P5 MMR ( so will skip ) after only 21 wins and I'm mostly just messing around on that account. Just focus on getting better, don't focus on your rank. Your rank will automatically go up once you get better.
Cocho1 votes"So why keep a bronze account why not just make a new account. "
Well, if you do bad against silvers on the new account, then you're just going to end up back in bronze.
Mr Urgod2 votesNew players usually go to Silver
Players ranked in last season go to Bronze
Mysticman892 votesI'm willing to bet that your buddy played ranked last season.
Placements aren't clean slate, they just influence your mmr more than normal. If your mmr is already trash from a previous season, then going 8/10 will work wonders for starting to fix that mmr, but it doesn't undo the previous season. In the majority of cases people will place around 1 tier below where they ended last season, so most bronze players from last season will start in bronze 5 this season, which is normal.
If they're as good as they were last year, they'll be able to climb back to wherever they used to be. If they've improved, then they'll climb further. This is how it works for every elo player, low elo players don't get a free pass thanks to placements.