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Rito Needs to Actually Start Listening & Performing What The Majority of the Player Base Wants

Kuntaa··7 votes·1,646 views

{If you've got a short attention span when it comes to reading, just read the 1st paragraph below and the last one mate}

...otherwise, more and more people will make the next leap to Overwatch, which in due time will snatch the majority of the League Active Player base when they develop more MMORPG content and expansion into the game (and believe me, Blizzard will in due time). Of course, League will still have their dedicated player base to support them even if that occurs...

But from what I've seen from this season, things have changed dramatically. Before (season 2-6 just before mid dynamic queue season), when any* individual made a post on the comment board to critique Rito changes which he/she deemed unnecessary and moreover, at certain times, they'll present factual or mathematical evidence to back up their claim, they'll always be shut down and discouraged by the community, downvoted, called a troll, and worst of all, if the commentator (or Brown Noser) of the post had no clue what he/she was talking about and jumped to conclusions with repulsiveness in order to defend Rito changes by any means necessary, he/she will do so! Now, I do not see that happening as much and the reason why is because of.....Dynamic Queue!

Despite the uproar in the community about Rito's decision for not opening a Ranked Solo Queue mode and in return, leaving Dynamic Queue, I understand that the majority of the player base is contempt with this decisions (many polls throughout the site showed this). So this we cannot touch on, but many other things (like promised champion reworks which we are suppose to get, but never do like Urgot; the many champion reworks which destroy the players interest in using the champion like Taric, the total destruction with nerfs to the most "memorable and classical champions to use like Gangplank (and the worst part about it is, this was actually a good rework then they had to nerf him insanely to the extent that he can't even farm and it takes long to utilize his passive serpent mechanism since they nerfed the amount which you gain also). I could go on but then it just be another paragraph multiplied by 3.

So for those of you with the SHORT READING SPAN or if you've actually finished reading that whole wall of texts (I know I wouldn't if it weren't mine :-), what is your take? Do you think Rito should conduct a poll and place it in both their client and there website front page for the community to make their votes before they make any changes (which should be solely based on the majority of the votes)? Let us know! We do live in a "democratic society," or at least that's what I was taught in school after all? BTW, when I say votes I'm also placing champion reworks, nerfs, and buffs in the same playing field!

24 Comments

QuadraKev8 votes

Do you have any idea what the majority of the player base even wants?

Jesus Is My King1 votes

this

Lohrr6 votes

Riot.. don't listen to them. The players often don't know what's best for them, or don't think they want it.

Hell Taker2 votes

Usually i'll agree with you however, Rito has gone way to far into the rabbit hole now! Even you must be ticked off at some of their recent decisions which they've implemented throughout this season alone!

Most importantly, don't think that by agreeing with them or coming to their aid, that you're going to get recognition or a reward like a free skin or even something minuscule like an IP boost. They see you're worth and comments (whether in their defense or not) as insignificant as dog feces on grass! What kind of game holds such irresponsibility in satisfying their players needs and wants? Only this one!

Jbels3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hell Taker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VFMYM3jd,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-06-22T13:20:07.387+0000)

Usually i'll agree with you however, Rito has gone way to far into the rabbit hole now! Even you must be ticked off at some of their recent decisions which they've implemented throughout this season alone!

Most importantly, don't think that by agreeing with them or coming to their aid, that you're going to get recognition or a reward like a free skin or even something minuscule like an IP boost. They see you're worth and comments (whether in their defense or not) as insignificant as dog feces on grass! What kind of game holds such irresponsibility in satisfying their players needs and wants? Only this one!

If Riot doesn't give a shit about the community, it's because of people like you.

Hell Taker2 votes

And if you're saying it is because of people like me, that means that we have more of Rito's attention then their faithful guinea pigs (such as yourself). Nice try NMF Jingle Bells. ;)

Jbels2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hell Taker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VFMYM3jd,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-22T13:33:26.833+0000)

And if you're saying it is because of people like me, that means that we have more of Rito's attention then their faithful guinea pigs (such as yourself). Nice try NMF Jingle Bells. ;)

You've got it backwards. I could care less what Riot does with their game. I'm here to play it, not whine every time something major gets changed. I adapt, and I keep going.

Why should Riot give a shit about the majority of it's fanbase when the majority of it's fanbase is of the opinion that Riot doesn't give a shit?

Kuntaa4 votes

[{quoted}](name=NMF Jbels,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VFMYM3jd,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-22T13:37:09.315+0000)

You've got it backwards. I could care less what Riot does with their game. I'm here to play it, not whine every time something major gets changed. I adapt, and I keep going.

Why should Riot give a shit about the majority of it's fanbase when the majority of it's fanbase is of the opinion that Riot doesn't give a shit?

Because this is business, something which you clearly do not understand and just from reading your emotional sentences, it is clearly evident that you're too young to do so or are just plain stupid.

The success of Rito games revolves around money, and people make money (even through fundraising)! If you're not working for the interest of the people, then how long will you think they'll give you money? As a matter of fact, they'll move to support something else which is the case with Overwatch taking League players.

Not trying to be rude, but that was the most plain stupidest comment which I've ever read thus far on the internet, and in addition, it appears that you really do have anger issues. Go squeeze on stressed balls or sumthin

Jbels2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zetsumeii ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VFMYM3jd,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-22T13:51:53.622+0000)

Because this is business, something which you clearly do not understand and just from reading your emotional sentences, it is clearly evident that you're too young to do so or are just plain stupid.

The success of Rito games revolves around money, and people make money (even through fundraising)! If you're not working for the interest of the people, then how long will you think they'll give you money? As a matter of fact, they'll move to support something else which is the case with Overwatch taking League players.

Not trying to be rude, but that was the most plain stupidest comment which I've ever read thus far on the internet, and in addition, it appears that you really do have anger issues. Go squeeze on stressed balls or sumthin

You're going to call me stupid after apparently reading my "emotional sentences". Ok. Stupidest isn't a word, I don't understand how you think attacking me makes your argument look any better. IT kind of makes you look like a child lashing out at people who don't agree with you = /

As for Riot being a business, yes. Yes it is. A very successful, lucrative business. You can act like these changes are affecting the money they are making poorly, but they aren't. Riot is booming, and it will continue to do so in years.

I didn't want to destroy your thread, but whatever, I've got time before classes. You're complaining about reworks that were promised but aren't here yet. Ok, you're impatient. I understand that. But rushing anything isn't going to be any better. Remember when Azir came out? He had so many bugs they were still fixing him 4 patches later.

Yes, Riot nerfs things. Do you know why Riot nerfs things? Because if they don't, you will never see anything else. Gangplank was literally choking out variety in lane, was much too safe for what he got to be in the late game, and did NOT deserve to be that strong for so long at the cost of variety.

Taric was a one-dimensional non-threatening boulder before his rework. He had a single target stun, and then that was it. His ult was numbers, his W was numbers, his old kit barely did anything interesting. The best thing Taric was back then was a meme. Atleast now he can be a meme, AND a decent pick. As for destroying interest in Taric with his rework, um...no. The rework generated more interest in Taric than there's ever been.

As for your attack on Riot's loyal fanbase, or as you call them, "Brown-nosers", who are you even? No seriously, who are you? I don't know who you are, they don't know who you are, Riot doesn't know who you are. Do you think Riot's fanbase cares that you're insulting them? Pfft. They enjoy this game, and they are putting money into it. That is how League of Legends works. I'll remind you that this game is ENTIRELY free to play, by the way. You could play this game and make it to challenger without spending a single dollar. But somehow Riot is still making money? Hmmm.

Stop insulting people and treating it like a good base for an argument.

Kuntaa2 votes

[{quoted}](name=NMF Jbels,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VFMYM3jd,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-22T14:15:21.233+0000)

You're going to call me stupid after apparently reading my "emotional sentences". Ok. Stupidest isn't a word, I don't understand how you think attacking me makes your argument look any better. IT kind of makes you look like a child lashing out at people who don't agree with you = /

As for Riot being a business, yes. Yes it is. A very successful, lucrative business. You can act like these changes are affecting the money they are making poorly, but they aren't. Riot is booming, and it will continue to do so in years.

I didn't want to destroy your thread, but whatever, I've got time before classes. You're complaining about reworks that were promised but aren't here yet. Ok, you're impatient. I understand that. But rushing anything isn't going to be any better. Remember when Azir came out? He had so many bugs they were still fixing him 4 patches later.

Yes, Riot nerfs things. Do you know why Riot nerfs things? Because if they don't, you will never see anything else. Gangplank was literally choking out variety in lane, was much too safe for what he got to be in the late game, and did NOT deserve to be that strong for so long at the cost of variety.

Taric was a one-dimensional non-threatening boulder before his rework. He had a single target stun, and then that was it. His ult was numbers, his W was numbers, his old kit barely did anything interesting. The best thing Taric was back then was a meme. Atleast now he can be a meme, AND a decent pick. As for destroying interest in Taric with his rework, um...no. The rework generated more interest in Taric than there's ever been.

As for your attack on Riot's loyal fanbase, or as you call them, "Brown-nosers", who are you even? No seriously, who are you? I don't know who you are, they don't know who you are, Riot doesn't know who you are. Do you think Riot's fanbase cares that you're insulting them? Pfft. They enjoy this game, and they are putting money into it. That is how League of Legends works. I'll remind you that this game is ENTIRELY free to play, by the way. You could play this game and make it to challenger without spending a single dollar. But somehow Riot is still making money? Hmmm.

Stop insulting people and treating it like a good base for an argument.


^ I drew this line specifically to let both you and other readers know that rebuttling your "response" will be bring true meaning to a piece of cake...and a reminder to never cross it ever again with your low intelligent capacity!

I do not lash out at people that do not agree with me, nor did I call you "stupid". After reading your sentences (at least this one), I could now come to the conclusion that calling you "stupid" will be an act of mercy upon your ethereal intelligence. You are PLAIN STUPID! There is a difference! HERE'S WHY YOU'RE CONSIDERED THIS CLASSIFICATION FROM THE AVERAGE STUPID:

  1. "Stupidest" is a word! As a matter of fact, if you stop placing your emotions over everything and start researching before you even speak (which you can't even due to to your plain stupidity), you'd understand what a superlative adjective is, or to the very least, type in the word "stupidest" on google search before jumping to your conclusions. Too bad you couldn't think of that XD, or could you really not think of that XD.

  2. No one was attacking you! You left multiple unpleasant comments filled with the phrase "doesn't give a shit" in your post and on my thread and furthermore, you've indirectly referenced me when you're speaking to someone else about it! It wasn't even a rebuttal to the poster which you were responding to or this thread. It was straight disrespect and nonetheless, it was uncalled for. That is why I stepped in to remove that old chip on your shoulder which now I'm 100% sure it became computerized, punctured your shoulder skin, dropped into your spine anatomy, travelled upwards through your blood stream, found its way into your brain and lastly, short circuited while inside the center of your brain!

  3. Destroy my thread, haha you wish! I hope you didn't forget to take your crayons and resting mat before your Junior Kindergarden classes begin, because honestly, that is where your logic seems to be heading towards. Yes i've complained about a rework that isn't here yet for the same reason to validate my points. Urgot was suppose to be reworked back in 2013. Both fans and players were excited to hear an announcement that Rito was fixated in reworking him back in 2013. Now is 2016 and still we have not seen or heard any news about it. Yet they want to rework champions that often see gameplay like Fiora, Ryze (they are even reworking him for a 3rd time), and warwick which'll soon hit PBE? Most importantly I was not against the whole rework, I was simply stating that they should have a poll to see if their player database is for/against it! Plain stupidity interpretation. What does Azir have to do with this? Why even bring him up or his issues alone in the same paragraph which is conveyed towards champion reworks? You can't even back up your arguement with a proper reason...?

  4. Yes Rito nerfs things to keep this game balanced, even a plain stupid person will know that! Despite their long efforts in doing this, the game is in fact more imbalanced than it ever was, especially in comparison any seasons prior to season 6. We've noticed this issue from season 5, and had even tried to share our insights with closed minded individuals such as yourself (though I must admit you are in an entire seperate lane from them due to your condition). If you're telling me that Rito is doing a fantastic job at gameplay balance, then why are there so many posts dedicated to dynamic queue disadvantages when solo queuing, enabling solo queues, champion nerfs ASAP (such as Malzahar, Vayne, and some more, who are notoriously known to be discussed throughout the forum post) and even item nerfs, buffs, and requests (such as the ones requesting the return of mana potions and boot enchantments)! Very well balanced if there is still more then 10 champions that never see the light of being selected in the majority of any game play mode (and even LCS for that matter) from Season 3 till now. I understand that gameplay balance should somewhat be maintened and perhaps on going, but when the choices for those gameplay balances further deteriorate it's goal due to "what the balanced team would like to see and experience," then the goal is no longer about balancing. It becomes based on "experimentation!" See the difference?

  5. "Taric was a one-dimensional non-threatening boulder before his rework. He had a single target stun, and then that was it. His ult was numbers, his W was numbers, his old kit barely did anything interesting. The best thing Taric was back then was a meme. Atleast now he can be a meme, AND a decent pick. As for destroying interest in Taric with his rework, um...no. The rework generated more interest in Taric than there's ever been." He quoted. Taric had a single target stun and that was it. I've seen posts where the majority of the people were complaining about the mechanism in his new stun (even writing RIP Taric because of it) due to the awkward angling of his stun on his bastion, the delay 1 second delay before it activates, and even more worst, it's low range in comparison to the old stun which was a certified hit and most importantly, was useful in taking down or scaring away an enemy laner! His new Q is so terrible, that he has to wait a full 15 seconds (without any cooldown reduction items) in order to fully utilize it, and even so it's healing numbers are so insignificant in comparison to other healing supports such as Kayle, Nami, and Soraka that can heal twice in the same amount of time span which the new Taric rework needs to utilize the most optimum heal! Even his old Q healed more then this new hunk of charred crystal junk! His W is the 1 and only benefit to his rework kit! That is probably the only thing that needed to be changed about him and I give Rito credit for that! But look at even his standard passive with the attack speed auto attack and furthermore, the nerf to its armor ratio from his old passive. His Ultimate can be exploited easily with displacements and crowd control and in addition, the taric team ends up either being outside of the area of effect of his ult or they're killed before or after it activates due to having low hp from being in a wrong position, but however, attempting to gain the AoE ult. With his old kit, his ultimate affected you and it did not have to include putting a "squishy mage, assassin," or AD bruiser per say in a dangerous or ineffective position just to gain the AoE benefits from either Taric or his W bastion which is typically the ADC. He's been reworked and yet, has not made it even to the top 5 most popular daily/weekly/monthly support pick when compared to the other ones like Blitzcrank, Thresh, Annie (who isn't even a real support but yet more favored then this reworked taric) and the list goes on. Heck, even Soraka and Sona get more gameplay in ranked games then Taric support! This is a problem, especially if a champion that was used before multiple times sees a decline in use. Rito payed the balanced team to do these kind of things, and instead, after they make their drastic champion changes, the popularity of the champion being played will go up for the first week or two the champion get's released, then it will decline dramatically to the point they were better off not making those drastic changes at all.

Kuntaa2 votes

As for your attack on Riot's loyal fanbase, or as you call them, "Brown-nosers", who are you even? No seriously, who are you? I don't know who you are, they don't know who you are, Riot doesn't know who you are. Do you think Riot's fanbase cares that you're insulting them? Pfft. They enjoy this game, and they are putting money into it. That is how League of Legends works. I'll remind you that this game is ENTIRELY free to play, by the way. You could play this game and make it to challenger without spending a single dollar. But somehow Riot is still making money? Hmmm.

Stop insulting people and treating it like a good base for an

I don't like to kick a man when he's down (whether smart or plain stupid), but how in the world did you come to the conclusion that i'm calling Rito's loyal fanbase "brown-nosers?" Are you simply retarded? When have I equated being Rito's loyal fanbase to "brown-nosing?" I said verbatim: "if the commentator (or Brown Noser)." That has nothing to do with Rito's loyal fanbase. Then this impractible fool starts being impulsive and questioning me saying "who am I," like his own credentials are incomprehensible, which I can see the reasoning of his mind state being in that paradigm. If you know what I mean XD. Are you trying to imply that YOU alone make up over 50% of Rito's fan base since my only rebuttal thus far has been towards you and no one else? If so, then we clearly need to find another category to place you in; nah, plain stupid is fine for you right now. Yes they've put money into it, but however, they're also putting money into Overwatch. Whether you like it or not, the community is leaking and finding themselves other MMORPG games just like Overwatch! Then he brings up the money issue again like he has a point when in actuality, my first response from the past about it is strong enough to cleave his present arguement into 2 bitty pieces...

I could go on for days with your half cheek comment but you're a waste of time to rebuttal and bake, so i'll make it plain and simple for you:

Stop being emotional and unrealistic! Get some therapeutic help! Don't let your JK teacher put you in the back corner for more then your schooling hours on a routinely basis!

And then he has the audacity to say people make it to challenger without spending a single dollar on the game.........#intensefuckery talk

Jbels1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zetsumeii ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VFMYM3jd,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-22T17:12:39.449+0000)

I don't like to kick a man when he's down (whether smart or plain stupid), but how in the world did you come to the conclusion that i'm calling Rito's loyal fanbase "brown-nosers?" Are you simply retarded? When have I equated being Rito's loyal fanbase to "brown-nosing?" I said verbatim: "if the commentator (or Brown Noser)." That has nothing to do with Rito's loyal fanbase. Then this impractible fool starts being impulsive and questioning me saying "who am I," like his own credentials are incomprehensible, which I can see the reasoning of his mind state being in that paradigm. If you know what I mean XD. Are you trying to imply that YOU alone make up over 50% of Rito's fan base since my only rebuttal thus far has been towards you and no one else? If so, then we clearly need to find another category to place you in; nah, plain stupid is fine for you right now. Yes they've put money into it, but however, they're also putting money into Overwatch. Whether you like it or not, the community is leaking and finding themselves other MMORPG games just like Overwatch! Then he brings up the money issue again like he has a point when in actuality, my first response from the past about it is strong enough to cleave his present arguement into 2 bitty pieces...

I could go on for days with your half cheek comment but you're a waste of time to rebuttal and bake, so i'll make it plain and simple for you:

Stop being emotional and unrealistic! Get some therapeutic help! Don't let your JK teacher put you in the back corner for more then your schooling hours on a routinely basis!

And then he has the audacity to say people make it to challenger without spending a single dollar on the game.........#intensefuckery talk

It's like watching the Discovery Channel = /

Fossil KiD1 votes

Lol he killed your whole shit though, that's the funny part

Lohrr1 votes

As a game developer (a different game where I'm not allowed to play 'cause Immortals have a history of cheating for their mortals), I often see situations where transparency and satisfying other player wants is often seen as great by the player base to start, but actually causes a decline in the long run. This is often the avenue taken by short-sighted business people in gaming as well.

Kuntaa4 votes

[Spolier] Rito's position reminds of Ramsay Bolton from Game of Thrones. If anyone watches the show, they know exactly what I'm talking about!

It's like when Jon Snow said during Season 6 Episode 9: "Your men (league of legends community) will fight for you (support Rito Games), when they hear you wouldn't fight for them (Rito employees). They'll not support your needs and wants...even won't reimburst you if you lose your account, but we'd blindly will support them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eacxsJpBTU > skip to see what i'm saying 1:45

Oleandervine4 votes

Claiming that Overwatch will poach League players is like claiming that the Disney Channel will poach HBO subscribers. Overwatch is ENTIRELY different than League in both game play, genre, and depth. League is complex and tactical, with multiple objectives and so much more in terms of strategy. Overwatch is an FPS "take the point" game who's biggest strategy is "Hide behind Reinhardt" and "Find the alternate path to objective." There's isn't much more depth to the game other than trying not to die and trying to find clever ways to snipe enemies before they shoot you. Furthermore, Overwatch won't be developing MMORPG aspects because Blizzard has sailed that ship in WoW and is actively trying to expand into other markets. Blizzard's top competitor with League is Heroes of the Storm, and clearly that game is not going to be pulling over any League players considering how long it's been out.

Hell Taker3 votes

Hahahahahaha I'm dying of laughter! I just looked at the video, and it is true! Rito is like Ramsay Bolton! Even throughout the whole conversation their is parallel similarities!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eacxsJpBTU

I am Pacman3 votes

So much is wrong here.

Your second paragraph just flat out makes no sense. If people are polite and explain their point on the boards about their favorite champions then riot usually at least responds. The problem is those are only a very small fraction of the change posts with the rest of them just bitching and moaning with no real feedback.

But if the boards and riot is trolling these people in the last couple of seasons then isn't the implementation of dynamic que (something that you said yourself) a positive? It reduced trolling according to you.

No disrespect SnugglePuggle94, but like we're pretty much moving past the "most people don't like it" argument at this point. It's just not true—it's a small but vocal (and very passionate) minority that's super upset about dynamic queue. Lots of people always wanted the ability to play ranked with more than one friend, and lots of people are fine with DQ now. The upset vocal minority has some very legitimate complaints about dynamic queue, so we're gonna bust our asses to try to address those criticisms and make ranked better for everyone. That means new features, more communication tools, better matchmaking tuning, and on. That's where we're going now. Again, this isn't to say that we're ignoring the criticisms of dynamic queue. We hear you. And we're gonna get creative to make things better for all players.

Cactopus - a day ago

This was posted on the last riot pls.

And then the reworks. The teams the do reworks are seperate from the ones who do dynamic que. Also there have been plenty of great reworks, taric being one of them. They also just released a list of like 10 champs that need a rework and urgot is on it.

And now the last paragraph. Wow you act so entitled. People fought bled and died so you could have democracy. Riot and its relationship is not a democracy and shouldn't be. Just like nintendo and their fans. These are businesses not countries.

Kuntaa2 votes

I've read your response, and from the information which you've presented, it appears as if:

A) You've misunderstood the paragraphs and incidentally are not able to grasp the central point of arguement well enough or B) Your using pre-subjective thought of disapproval for the entire thread, which may had been a result from reading the title alone, henceforth, not properly interpreting any sentence at all afterwards.

This may explain why "so much is wrong" for you and likewise, the second paragraph not making sense to you. I agree that some people should be polite when they're requesting to see a champion become buffed, nerfed, or even halted on a rework but you and I know that isn't the case most of the times. Whether a person is "rude" or not, they're still a part of the community and always have been. This means, the majority still stands whether we like it or not.

Let me give you an example before I further elaborate on this. You own a banquet hall! Your business is predicated on the catering of your customers and the commerce between you and them (same exact example as the player base and Rito). As the owner, you've purchased 2 mounted stereos on a tripod and have convinced all your customers to not move or touch it at all, not even your employees! Some of your customers become frustrated due to the stereo positioning, and subsequently, they make ad hominem remarks against you. Few others have brought up their concern with an impulsive attitude about the stereo positioning and have requested for you to move it; fewer others have brought up the issue in a polite manner according to your point of view to move the stereo. After reflection, hearing, and even peer review analysis, you've realized that the majority of your customers want to see the 2 mounted stereos removed from the banquet hall. Now, you as the corporate boss of this banquet hall, if you choose to ignore their request for too long, what do you think will happen?

It's the same concept. Now back to your factual points. When you speak about "bitching and moaning," you must obviously be speaking figuratively, and undoubtedly, you mean complaining. But here is where you're wrong! Their is feedback! In fact, people have posted multiple screenshots of team scores, champion statistics via lolmatchhistory screen shot and many more as to the reason why certain changes are required, but never get fulfilled until months, or even a year(s*)! It is not very small if every patch release webpage, someone is asking why such and such champion is being nerfed or why this item is being nerfed and i can go on and on. I'll give you perfect evidence! http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-612-notes and on the bar that says comments sorted by, click recent and see all those comments against reworks and the patch itself. It's not the minority that are complaining, it's the majority! Swallow reality and realize that it is more then a minority bringing up the issue!

I honestly do not know why you brought your former quote paragraph up! That just furthered my case and point that Dynamic queue was heavily favored more by players then re-opening solo queue. If you ask me it was irrelevant to bring that up because even I made the same conclusion about it. So there is no need to address something I agree, my thread agrees with, and which they've enacted. I'm talking about the countless other things which the majority of the player base requested and do not make it into live servers, such as 1v1 lava chamber, in-game voice chat (which was requested by the majority since 2012 and even today, but still hasn't been implemented into the server). So many more things.

Now for the rework scenerio. Did you know that the new reworked taric's popularity in all regions as a bottom lane support, and even top lane, has dropped significantly when compared to his old kit? That is a big issue! If you don't believe me, here is my evidence: http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=bottom-synergy&range=daily&map=sr&queue=1x1&league=ranked so that already destroys your arguement that he's a great rework when he's been seeing a dramatic decline in gameplay all throughout every region, especially after his post rework. Urgot was on the list of rework since 2013 so don't even bring him up until we actually see him get reworked! People have requested to see him get reworked even before all of these champions that are getting theirs, and still till this day no one has taken the effort to shed some light or even attempt to make changes to him.

And now the last paragraph. Wow you act so entitled. People fought bled and died so you could have democracy. Riot and its relationship is not a democracy and shouldn't be. Just like nintendo and their fans. These are businesses not countries.

I had every respect for you as an individual expressing their thought until this last comment. This was totally uncalled for, BS, and contradictory to your own statement. First and foremost I was speaking figuratively. Since when do politics and video games go hand in hand? This was to emphasis my statement about voting before implementing in game changes. Not electing the president of sales or anything of that nature in the corporate chain. Before you maroon yourself in an uninhabited island thinking that Rito is there, don't forget that Rito games IS LOCATED IN NORTH AMERICA, which is a DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY! Nonetheless, this was again, one of your horrible pre-subjective translation of the actual sentence. And then you have the nerve to say I was acting so entitled when in fact, I said "we," live in a democratic country and not "I." If a business operates in a country, then it obviously has federal laws which it must follows! You're trying to put it in a context that a business can do w.e the heck they want without following any government laws, which is wrong, but no more of this. It'll further confuse you since I doubt you're smart to intellectually grasp the comment that follows after this last comment! And please for the love of whatever you believe in, do not compare Nintendo to Rito, likewise their fanbase! Nintendo makes games for fans. Nintendo responds to their fans, especially if their is an unwanted change in any of there game. Nintendo fans contribute to Nintendo and are satisfied with their contributions. Nintendo get's player feedback as they promote, create, or dispose of game materials. Does Rito do any of that? NO! So if you're going to go into the defense of a business that clearly closes the bathroom door on you and wipes your money with their gravy coming out of their behind, then maybe it's about time to confront them on that matter instead of defending them you Vanilla Fappuccino

I WILL TROLL YOU2 votes

I corrected your title.

Riot needs to listen to the forums or I'll cry and quit the game.

The JigSAW2 votes

I didn't agree with them when they took away our mana potions.

I didn't agree with them when they took away Team Builder.

I didn't agree with them when they removed the Dominion mode as a full-time mode.

I didn't agree with the mana regen and spellvamp removal that has made most matches either insanely difficult or insanely easy for the mages they either overbuffed or underbuffed.

I didn't agree when they say Yasuo, Yi, Tryndamere's ult, Veigar's infinite stacks, Nasus' infinite stacks, and Xin Zhao's new crit/heal mechanic are 'balanced'

I didn't agree that they refuse to offer refunds on reworked champions, which shows how much confidence they have in their own work.

I didn't agree Fiora and Irelia's art look better than they used to, that Shen and Taric aren't useless and pathetic in comparison to pre-rework versions, and that champions need reworks just because they said so.

Tell me this, with the current regime how many people actually think there will be less things to agree with and more people saying sayonara to the game? The ONLY reason I'm not on Overwatch is I need to update my GFX card first and I'm planning to build a new comp from scratch soon. After that? Tell me why I should stick around.

For trolls and AFK's who get one lousy five minute queue ban and then head right back in and do the same thing again? For smurfs in ranked holding down players who can't compete against a bronze III who is really Plat I on their actual account to help boost their friends, which is LEGAL? For decisions Riot makes on reworks, item and kit changes without bothering to ask the plebians who pay their salary if they like the idea first? For the once in a while "crackdowns" on toxic behavior that go away quickly and people are right back into their troll all day every day mode?

The last fun season I remember was 4. It was also my last ranked season because it was getting unbearable and insulting to have to "place" back into your old rank. I can imagine the look on any NFL quarterback or running back's face if the NFL said they have to "do placements" for their old position. They earned it, and they should keep it, same as ranked players. Now, with the archaic ELO system and their own messed up MMR they find a way to drop people up to two full tiers on placements from their old rank, making it much more difficult. ELO was designed to measure the chances of somebody winning a game of chess between two people, not a 5vs5 team fight on a MOBA computer game in 2016.

Worse, their matchmaking! I have a great teammate ribbon and over 1700 teamwork honors - How many times do you think I'm matched with others with ribbons? If you guessed about 3 times a month out of 100-150 games, you'd be correct. Why aren't good players with sportsmanlike honors given more teammates possessing the same traits? Hell, a few weeks ago I was matched with randoms vs a Plat IV and his pre-made buddies. Another few times, I teamed with a friend just about to hit level 30 and we got paired against silver players... an under level 30 player matched with silver and higher? The system isn't just broken it's absolutely FUBAR'd.

In the end, Riot needs to remember their paying, casual playerbase are their main income source. Start catering to pros and your OWN view of what the game "should" be and chapter 11'll be calling soon enough, and there's no /remake to get out of that.

Vanjie1 votes

They have to take everything with a grain of salt. Almost everything they do is scrutinized. Some of the new content and decisions they make deserve negative feedback, like this horrible matchmaking system, but a lot of it is just people whining about something they don't like.

I hate the changes they made to Karma and the refusal to do anything about it for three years now. Does that mean everyone agrees with what I think? No. There are many people that like Karma the way she is and have their own opinions about her.

If you don't like the game or the Developers, don't play or give them your money. I play one to two games a week . . . . sometimes less . . . . and I will not give them a single penny more until they fix this matchmaking system and work on Karma . . . . or give her something. That's just the way it is.

ShhYoureMuted1 votes

At this point, I doubt League of Legends will ever improve. The Ranked/Matchmaking System is too broken. Until the Ranked and Matchmaking system gets a complete rework, the game will continue to lose it's players to better quality games.

Quepha1 votes

Internet forums are not the majority.

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