This community on the boards is a VERY small fraction of the full LoL community. A lot of people LIKE Dynamic Queue and are happy solo isn't returning.
It's just something I wanted to say. Feel free to discuss.
The problem I have is that Dynamic Queue has helped resolve something I myself, as well as so many of you, believed extremely difficult or nigh impossible: actually reduced toxicity. I think the discussion as to "how" that happened is extremely relevant in the midst of all this, because I for one do NOT want to go back to the "mid or feed" days.
I firmly believe that the biggest part of it is that people are generally more focused on their own play and their own improvement when they actually get a role they wanted. Of course, I agree that getting to play with friends has also helped dampen some of the harassment issues within the community, but the problem we have is that Riot introduced two variables into the scientific experiment that was Team Builder: 1) queue with as many friends as you like, and 2) Select your role. The problem here is that we can only speculate which of these is more important to the community at large in terms of reducing toxicity.
Now, I also have to say that the long wait timers is not an issue for me at my rank (incur the "Silvers are Trash" flameboats). However, I agree that higher ranks having to wait longer than 10 minutes for a match is really quite absurd. So to mirror the question within the answer found at the roundtable discussion posted last night, that group (Diamond +) should be given an opportunity to have their voices heard in terms of what they want out of Dynamic Queue: faster queue times with less focus on getting your primary role selection, faster times with reduced team partner options (only up to trios), or more focus on one of these two alternatives while incurring longer queue times.
The fact is, the pool of Bronze to Gold that is pulled when I queue is massive, probably close to if not in excess of 1 million times larger than the pool from which Scarra's queues pull. The numbers simply aren't there, so the available roles are far rarer than in my situation. The reality is that the cost of being among those ranks is having to make this decision between queue times and quality of matches.
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I, for one, welcome our dynamic overlords.
On a more serious tone, I agree, even if people are holding the dislike bar at the video as their flagship (it has 12k dislikes or so atm, I think?) That number is a very very small minority compared to the whole playerbase.
Also, I haven't had to be complete shite as my team's ADC ever since Dynamic has been implemented, so there's also that.
I honestly just want to see real numbers from Riot.
Like just send out a survey with this one question: "Do you enjoy playing with/against premades in RANKED?"
and then post the statistic to prove whether the majority like or dislike dynamic Q. since you know, Riot loves statistic and everything.
Happy people dont feel compelled to go on boards and tell everyone how happy they are. Frustrated people want to vent on the boards. It seems like a large majority want DQ gone because they are all venting together. Not many people are pointing out all the great things they've experienced with DQ.
People really dont seem to understand this. If they judged everything done that the "forum community" hated/like it would be hectic and basically unplayable. But seriously people need to understand that just because a post has hundreds of upvotes, or multiple topic doesnt mean every single person agrees, let alone a large majority. People can "fake" upvotes, or make topics and basically make/login to an account just for the sole purpose of upvoting or making a topic.
Statistically it's loved if we are to believe the boards. Apparently everybody on the boards is a solo player playing with 4-man pre-made against a four or 5 man pre made. That's about 8 or 9 people who are playing it to one who is not. I can't imagine they'd be playing it if they didn't like it (it's a game after all the point is to have fun and do stuff you like), so we can deduce that it is extremely well received. That is, of course, if we believe the boards.
Yes boards may not be the entire community but ratios matter. If I take 1000 people and 900 of them tell me this sucks chances are it sucks. If I take 10000 people it will most likely be similar. Most people who like dynamic queue are A. people who were playing 5's before so it doesnt matter to them. B Boosters because this made boosting much easier. C people who are getting boosted. Riot is never going to release numbers because they are most likely largely negative. God that survey they gave was hilarious. Do you like playing league with friends...like no shit. Then I got that survey where I got real questions like do you like dynamic Queue. That survey I wanna see numbers for.
The only people who enjoy dynamic queue are people who frequently play in premades. That's an irrefutable fact.
the only people that like dq are the ones abusing it. these are the players who climbed to ranks they dont belong in because someone on their team carries them every single game. these are the people who dont play ranked unless their team si with them because their true skill would appear and they would feed their asses off.
You also have to realize that the forum going community represent a sample size of the population, be it Reddit or these boards, and that this sample size, while not being the entire population, represents that's same population. It's the same as presidential election polls. They don't ask all 300 million Americans who they think is leading the race and who they will vote for. They ask 50,000 people and then extrapolate. If the 50k people are a fair demographic representation of the whole (in the same sense the board users represent a fair demographic of the lol population) then the poll tends to represent Americans on the whole, all 300 million of them.
Common sense tells us that if the majority of the boards population dislikes DQ it's a safe assumption a similar percentage of non board users also dislike it. It really doesn't matter if we represent only 3% of the playing population when 2/3 of that sample size dislike something. It's safe to assume that 2/3 of the remaining 97% of the population likely feel the same way. That's how percentages of populations work. This is very basic stuff when it comes to statistics and is something any highschool student should already understand.
You can say the board goers only represent a small portion of the population all you want. It doesn't change the fact that we are representative of the entire demographic as a whole. There is no democratic government, no large business, no national poll, that does not work this way, that is simply how statistics work.
It's not just safe to assume the majority of the population dislike DQ, it's sheer lunacy to think anything other than this. Science itself tells us so.
All right, let's sacrifice ranked integrity and demean its value to please casuals who would have just played normals otherwise. Even if a majority were to support it, which I doubt is true among those playing ranked often, it doesn't make it the right choice. It's taking every queue configuration into a single ranking and making it far too ambiguous as a result.
