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I can't climb anymore..? let me know you guys' thoughts on this please

Synstinct·7/16/2017, 8:41:25 PM·1 votes·433 views

I'll make this pretty quick, I've been playing league constantly for two years. I love the game and really want to improve, I'm a tilt proof player and i hardly ever blame my team instead focusing on my mistakes and how to improve them. This season i was placed Bronze 1 after finishing s2 in s6, climbed fairly effortlessly to gold which was my goal for this season and even got to within one game of gold 4 promos, however i have since then gone on a major lose streak which brought me back to s2 before i was able to once again climb back to gold. Unfortunately that lose streak really did a number to my mmr to the point where i now only gain 11-13 lp and lose 22-25. Because of this even though ive been playing well ive dropped down to now s3 and don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I win a negligible amount of lp and lose almost 30. On top of this I've started getting the worst teams I've ever had and yes I know I said i don't blame my team but its not even that these teams are bad, they simply give up at 5 minutes over the tiniest things and any attempt to keep them focused just makes them more toxic, I really don't know what to do and I'd hate to finish the season Bronze after hitting gold (which is what looks to be the case). Please let me know if you have any thoughts or ideas and sorry for the long thread

11 Comments

Rick Yiordan7/16/2017, 8:48:03 PM1 votes

play draven/twitch adc and climb gg

if u dont want to add me and we can duo

PhantomGG7/16/2017, 8:56:43 PM1 votes

Honestly, I hate to say it, and people get very mad at me when I say this, but honestly there is truth to it.

I believe in two forms of talent.

Natural talent Earned talent

If you watch the anime Naruto, they really make these two terms clear that they are indeed real and the struggles the person with "earned talent" has to go through vs those with "natural talent"

So what is natural talent? Natural talent is Neji from naruto, a guy who was born with a amazing body, a amazing mind, and with some training was able to easily climb the ranks and become one of the best in his village. Natural talent is faker who came out of nowhere and was able to make every mid laner in the game look like complete garbage.

But what is Earned talent? Earned talent is the guy who came from a less advantageous environment, a guy who is maybe, not so strong, a guy who is maybe, not so smart, earned talent is rock lee, who came from nothing, who everybody written off as a loser for he was born with a disability that made it physically impossible for him to ever use nin jutsu or gen jutsu. However Rock Lee said "no im going to work hard and be the best" and through training 15 hours a day 7 days a week, he became a tai jutsu genius. Earned Talent is your friend you met who started this game as a bronze player, but practiced his heart out, and within a year became plat or diamond. That is earned talent. The person who came from nothing, the person who should of never amounted to anything, but became something for he worked hard.

Disclaimer I am not dissing people with natural talent, people like faker still have to practice 8 hours a day, but people like faker also don't have to endure the struggles of going "dear god I might become diamond or masters this year" that will never become a reality for them, simply because they are so natural good, that even if they started taking vacations, they will always be able to maintain a challenger level of performance, at worse case, high masters. But it's also why no one can catch up to faker. If faker is already naturally good, and he is practicing double the amount you are, than mathematically no one can catch up, which is proven in the fact he is quite literally a 3 time world champion and maybe going for a 4th this year for SKT is looking really fucking good.

What am I leading to? What I am leading to is the term "natural limits" Perhaps your natural limit is that of a gold player. Perhaps that is the strongest you ever will be, for it is your natural limit. However I will say this, if you read everything I said about "earned talent" than you will know now, that it is possible to over come those limits. But only if you practice your heart out.

Good luck.

Phyuq Yiu7/16/2017, 8:59:03 PM1 votes

wow sounds a lot like what happened to me, was able to get g5 end of last season. Placed in silver 5. Made it back to G5, G4 promos even. Then it happened, about 400 games where I win about 30-45% took me all the way down to bronze 2 lmao! and was stuck in bronze for quite a while just spamming games.

I am certain RIOT was trying out a different matchmaking. Maybe trying to balance consistent players with trolls (or people who feed often or play random shit, random roles)

So being a support main who almost always has amazing kda and w/e other stats they keep I had to supp the worst adcs they could find.

Laning with a retard vs a competent bot lane became normal over hundreds of games.

Seeing my adcs as "useless" has changed my playstyle. Not for the better I bet.

1/14 adc doesnt even phase me now. and fed enemy adc is no big deal to me. I became used to it.

I get decent adcs now but after lane my old instinct to protect them is totally gone so this screws the actually decent ones, sad. I wont sacrifice myself for them bc too few of them have been any good at all. When they pop off I feel bad bc I was supporting everbody else. How do I know this was the 1 in 1million that is actually usefull?

"you shouldnt play supp then" well it's what I do and sadly how i've adapted :(

nm10107/16/2017, 8:59:09 PM1 votes

Do not play Riven or Yasuo

KaRniVooL137/16/2017, 10:21:52 PM1 votes

some are gonna ignore this...

if you are a fringe skill level player (such as high silver /low gold) like you are your win % rises and falls with meta shifts and changes due to most people can only play a handful of champs... when the meta favors your champs you do better and when it dont you do worst ...

not saying this is the only reason but it can be part of it...

hence you see alot of people trying to learn and play the FOTM /META STRONG champs you see it alot in pro play where out of no where you stop seeing the maokai picked /contested top and start to see more bruiser heavy champs cuz these changes.

some pros adapt very well some dont... teams as well... so that is how and why you can see some teams rise and fall through out a season.

but if we focus on the things that are constants in the game. wardings, cs, lane control. how to trade properly , rotations. etc then with the shifts in meta your ups and downs wont be as drastic