So when Riot would nerf Mordekaiser?

-5 movespeed

While i'm not defending Ryze, taking conqueror on ryze is Inting, he is so much stronger with phase rush.

Again, not defending ryze, fuck that champion.

Do a full mage item nerf, increase gold on zhonyas etc.

Likely if the pros pick him up, its usually the only reason nerfs happen now.

The stats Conqueror gives isn't too high, it's just the healing, needs to be lowered to 12% or 10%.

30 AD / 50 AP is just the cherry on top, but if you nerf the AP, the AD needs to get nerfed too.

Few ideas-

1. Make his abilities cost health again and that health is stored into his w. Right now he is a manaless shoving machine. If he's even on gold for the game he can E-Q a wave and clear it instantly.

2. Lower Q ISO damage.

3. If u don't do idea 1, make his W store way less. He gets like an 800-1000 health shield mid game sometimes, that's insane! Lower its max health ratio

It gives 50 AP btw.

Honestly, forget a nerf, just give him a minirework, they minireworked diana, they're minireworking sylas, next can morde have that minirework we've all been discussing here on the boards?

I think you mean " so when is riot gonna balance the game at all?"

remember when everyone wanted conq nerfed because the people that were supposed to use it were using it? hahaha I don't remember that either - slaps knee-

Just make his passive durate 3 to 9 seconds base on level and give it actual cooldown

Playing against Mord is somewhat unfun for me since I enjoy playing bruisers and fighters. The problem I find is that his dps is extremely high compared to his survivability. I think that I'm just playing against him wrong, though. I'm always afraid of when he'll pop his shield and then I won't be able to damage him, but he never does. He heals then builds his stacks right back up. I can't find room to outplay him because his kit always allows him to cover for his own mistakes.

Mordekaiser does need nerfed

He is a top tier pick with few to no real counters. He builds damage and enjoys more sustain than any given tank while dealing burst level damage.

His passive is overloaded and is, in my opinion, the problem area.

I don't mind his ultimate. It's easily dealt with by either building QSS or kiting him until it ends.

Nerf his passive, riot. Please nerf his passive.

Because he is not over the 56% win rate Riot said is the nerf line.

He is at 54% mid and 52% top all other are under 48%

Revert him. Both parties would be happy.

as an prework morde main i agree. been saying this many times. The issue is his passive.

Too easy to proc if he lands e, not all that hard to proc if he doesnt also. The bonus movepeed and insane, but refreshing dot aura is too strong. it does shyvana level of aoe damage and it isnt gated by cooldown.

The passive needs either reduced damage, a duration before going on cooldown, or at least a cooldown of its own thats significant like 8-12 seconds that gives u a window to fight him again.

Only the strongest bullies up top can beat him early, and even then its usually if he misses his grab and doesnt start the dot with a quick e q auto combo.

Allow us to go even or even lose the first trade when we or he engage on one another, but have him need to back off for a bit before he can pressure with that insane passive again. it needs a significant 10-12 second cooldown given that anyone that isnt darius and is applying his own insane dot loses the trade so hard.

I thing that problem with morde lies in that he can really easily set situation up for heavy chunks followed by R when enemy has HP low enough.

1. Make his abilities cost health again and that health is stored into his w. Right now he is a manaless shoving machine. If he's even on gold for the game he can E-Q a wave and clear it instantly.
2. Lower Q ISO damage.

This is good, but I think that he just shouldn't have just so big raw dmg ( not in early ). His Q should be little bit thinnier to punish him by missing it and also have removed that bonus DMG because of combination with his R ( its quite unfair to do almost 1/2 health bar on E auto R Q on lvl 6, well is whole combo, but he has fKin AP boost on autoattacks with DoT). Someone who is DPS focused should not chunk so well. Imagine Yi doing 1/4 of your HP just because he bought 60 ad jungle item ( idc that he buys the one with AS, this is just an example).

To be more precise, its not his Q which makes him strong, its the combination of all he has. Strong DPS passive, 20% bonus dmg on Q rank 1, % MR pen on E and ult that takes your stats and gives him free pass to his Q bonus DMG, In short, there should be direction to where he should be directed and not be demi-master of all trades and he should rely on one thing not to have others to compensate his lack of one direstion ( He lands EQ to chunk you but then finish you with passive, if EQ wasnt enough and you cant outdamage him because he hit you with those spells) He should keep his identity as raid boss but should not be able to kill others so easily, so gutting only his passive for the sake of W and Q is a way + making Q thinner so that he can keep his HIGH dmg on it ( I wouldnt mind even buffing it since it does not do so much dmg without passive

To be honest Morde needs to lose something in his kit. He needs to either lose his aoe damage passive. Or he needs to lose the heal and keep a shield instead. Having both is disgustingly OP.

Or he needs a long ass CD on his W and E to prevent his constant engage, disengage and healing.

Ap itemization is the issue. Has been for a while now. It is why he is so tanky while putting out so much damage.

imagine thinking ryze and cass still abuse the rune, oh wait, silver

Morde has already received 9 nerfs since his rework. It's Conq that made him stronger.

It's because when Conq is fully stacked, and his passive is up, he is dealing percent hp AoE DoT, healing for that damage

If you want it nerfed, but not gut Conq, Morde, or other Conq users, just reduce Conqs healing on AoE and DoT just like other healing things in the game, like Gunblade and DD. It's very simple, really.

Everything about the game is fine now,Morde is pretty balanced,if anything he should get a buff on his e that increases the casting speed and the Magic Pen so he can have an easier time against tanks.Champions that need nerfs are ahri and galio.