Early Surrender Vote shouldn't have to be unanimous!

BrotherCash·9/12/2019, 12:10:14 PM·2 votes·1,070 views

Many times my team will want to early surrender because there is one feeding TROLL who is legit just running down mid lane and dying. Forcing the 15 minute surrender vote to be unanimous simply means that troll can hold the entire team hostage for 5 more minutes, extremely annoying!

8 Comments

Posui Gart9/12/2019, 12:27:11 PM4 votes

More often its the feeding guy who spams "gg open", "ff 15 go next" etc. They think of themselves as best players in the world, so if he thinks he can't win, then its unwinnable and everyone should surrender asap. From my experience, players below high diamond can throw any advantage they have and even 0-20 at 20th can be won just by abusing enemy mistakes.

SEKAI9/12/2019, 2:38:26 PM2 votes

Even if you can see the name of the voters, nothing will change. Since you can't punish people for their votes that they cast to for any reason including but not limited to trolling; it's all kinds of moral minefield in that direction if we were to ever say "I am punishing you for voting in a certain agenda that I disprove of". And needless to say, it also enables potential problems related to bullying.

Not to mention, being able to see the voter's names is another problem about undermining the integrity of voting itself as a practice.

So whichever way you go, it's big trouble. So why bother?

And in the end of the day, it's just 5 extra minute, assuming we're talking about 1 person that vote No in ff15 votes. It's really not a big deal.

What's more, if there's 2 or more teammates that vote No. It means there are a good portion of your team that still want to play the game. Actually winnable or not, if they're just trolling or not, you shouldn't just accuse them of being trolls just because they voted No to your call for surrender.

Kanzler9/12/2019, 12:33:21 PM2 votes

If you want to quit after 15 minutes, starcraft 2 might be more your speed.

Hotarµ9/12/2019, 12:16:03 PM2 votes

1 - Even if that scenario was true, it's 5 minutes. We shouldn't change the whole system because a few people misuse it.

2 - People give up too easily. The vote should stay unanimous because giving up that early shouldn't be an easy decision, everyone should have an input. I can't tell you how many games are won because people just stall out, scale, and come back.

3 - Not everyone who votes no to the early FF vote is a troll or holding the team hostage. See #2. I'm not sure if you're saying that, just clearing up any misconceptions.

CallMeAxel1239/12/2019, 1:31:50 PM1 votes

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Many times my team will want to early surrender because there is one feeding TROLL who is legit just running down mid lane and dying. Forcing the 15 minute surrender vote to be unanimous simply means that troll can hold the entire team hostage for 5 more minutes, extremely annoying!

Usually the "troll" that you're talking about is the one who WANTS to surrender. When i'm "trolling" i'm usually the one who call for the surrender vote and my team accuses me that i was the one who voted "no" and they're too stupid to see that i was the one who called the surrender vote. lol

DuskDaUmbreon9/12/2019, 12:55:01 PM1 votes

You're right. It shouldn't be unanimous.

Early surrender shouldn't exist at all.

Thingamajig9/12/2019, 12:25:07 PM1 votes

It HAS to be unanimous yes it's annoying but id much rather not give 4 premades the power to surrender a stomp just because they decided to troll

Zlera9/12/2019, 12:16:04 PM1 votes

Well, overall it makes sense, comebacks happen! Riot is allowing people to say "Hey, I think we can come back from this". Its not intended to be used to hold people "hostage".