Does Master Yi NEED a mana gate?

DrOinkleBerry·9/12/2015, 11:37:57 PM·3 votes·859 views

Is there any particular reason that Master Yi needs to be gated behind mana?

He is the only 'melee carry' that is gated by mana, which, while it makes him unique relative to the others, ultimately seems unnecessary.

I feel giving him a mana gate is unnecessary because of the following:

  1. His basic cooldowns are VERY long, especially early game, which by itself is a huge power gate.
  2. Yi requires lots of items in addition to takedowns for him to access his abilities frequently, which gates him behind farm and risk-playing.
  3. Wuju Style, arguably his highest-damage cooldown, already costs no mana anyway. Why gate everything else, but not the true-damage steroid?
  4. Come late game, his cooldowns become so cheap of mana that it seems redundant that there be any mana cost at all. He's not going to go out of mana in the middle of a teamfight late into the game, not without some significantly specific situation.

The only thing the mana gate seems to do to Master Yi is make his early game impossible outside of the jungle (b/c blue buff). Would Master Yi somehow become far too overpowered if he had his mana gate removed? If so, why? Again, his cooldowns are really long, weak without items, and inaccessible without interacting with opponents, so the additional mana gate seems redundant to me. He already is gated heavily by mechanics other than mana.

But, I feel that, if his mana gate were removed, he would potentially become viable in lane. If his early game cooldowns didn't cost 1/3 of his entire mana pool, he actually might be able to trade and sustain himself early in a lane, without being overpowered because of the other gates his power is locked behind. And let's not forget he has clear strengths and weaknesses against certain match-ups; he would not automatically be godlike if he could go to lane.

So, is there any particular reason that Master Yi needs to be gated by mana? Would he be overpowered without it, for some reason? Am I missing something? Or am I not crazy to suggest that it's unnecessary that he have a mana gate?

9 Comments

Sightless669/12/2015, 11:59:21 PM4 votes

It does serve to gate his early jungle farming and laning potential. For laning, his Q has very, very strong pushing and waveclear, and his W gives him pretty respectable sustain. Giving easy access to those without a mana gate requires some pretty significant kit sacrifices that Master Yi doesn't make. It really would be too much safety for him to have, even with his other limitations. It might not make him overpowered, but it does risk making him an extremely non-interactive opponent. Shoving very hard and healing up any poke received while also being decent in an all-in has a lot of risk of being a very annoying laning pattern.

If we wanted to open up easier laning for Master Yi, there would probably be better ways to do it than this.

SaltyKracka9/12/2015, 11:58:11 PM2 votes

Because otherwise he'd go top/midlane and spam Alpha Strike for free harass on cooldown.

BeatzBoyFTW9/12/2015, 11:39:55 PM1 votes

Do note that his abilities receives cooldown whenever he gains a kill during ult, so imagine a fed Master Yi spamming QQQQQQ in heavy teamfights.

Bârd9/12/2015, 11:53:55 PM1 votes

further gating master yi behind mana is a terrible idea.

Not just because it is unnecessary

IT LETS HIM BUILD item 3042 AND SPAM ANOTHER ONHIT

the current level, which is basically just that he has costs, is fine.