Ornn - Why was he made?

R2v3ns·9/1/2017, 6:44:22 PM·4 votes·1,036 views

I might be off base here but Ornn seem like a design concept for a more slow paced moba game. Putting it bluntly he's ill fitted for league because he requires too much set-up to get his kit off and when he does he can cc lock people for roughly 4 seconds, but those set-ups are predictable and if his opponents can read him can easily disrupt his engage or more simply move out of the way. Ornn is also completely reliant on his team composition because while he can inflict brittle on his opponents and proc with an AA, his allies can only trigger it if they have cc meaning if his team isn't cc heavy his brittle is next to pointless since he can't reliability proc it on each opponent. This then brings to the front that riot has gone too far in the "every champ needs counter play" philosophy by making it so that his pillar take 2 seconds to proc, his E can be disrupted negating all effects, and any kind of cc can stop Ornn form doing his R follow. Riot probably predicted the same result as with Taliyah's ult that heavily coordinated teams would be able to abuse not only Ornn's ult but his whole kit.

As it stands Ornn is a slow-paced champ that that rewards overly analytical methodical set-ups, both in game play and champ section, and is a strict enabler to CC chains, something Riot has pointedly steered from.

There is also the fact that Ornn suffers from the same failing of Singed in the fact that they both want to engage but have completely unreliable means to do so forcing them to build items to make up for this missing link in their kit (why this dota mechanic?).

My question is not "why is he so bad?" but "Why was he even made to begin with?" He likes to cc lock people, he relies on items too heavly(for abililites since his scaling is bad), and he's combotastic with certain team comps. This is like the bread and butter for DoTA 2 hero design, you need at least two of those 3 things.

16 Comments

S0und169/1/2017, 7:13:07 PM2 votes

And your point is...? You say he's fit more for dota, but that doesn't mean he doesn't work in LoL.

  1. He stun locks the enemy, making them useless for a while. During that time, the enemy's poor team lost some decent dps, depending on who he targets.
  2. He makes his team stronger in the late game with his item upgrades, and who doesn't like that?
  3. He has ridiculous sustain in lane because of his item building passive

He's a great team player, and LoL has champs all over the board, including there.

Kloqdq9/1/2017, 7:42:30 PM2 votes

When will people realize that he isn't meant for primary engage but follow up? He is a supportive champion that wants to make big plays others make EVEN BIGGER.

Ahristocats9/1/2017, 7:34:25 PM1 votes

lol so true

except ornn isn't good for dota

LordGeovanni9/1/2017, 9:00:47 PM1 votes

He was obviously made to make cc stronger but since riot considers cc stronger than damage even though cc without damage is worthless and damage without cc still kills

Peritheus9/2/2017, 8:44:43 AM1 votes

Because people complained about how Rito makes broken champs upon release and got splurges of negative reactions about their busted champ, this guy? Everyone was so hyped about him when they were teasing the release, and then played him only to see he is completely useless, another sejuani that depends on the team with a late game scale in mind rushing his inefficient upgrades first when the games end at 20 min snowball fests is not a good way to show the true potential of this chump, still awesome though and that shut everyone up about how broken released champs, yeah he's broken alright, 35-18%role wr is such a shame that nobody dared talked about it till like 3/4 of a month passed by, he didn't go up in wr much at all from release, he's INTeresting and "special".

Leaf on Bush9/3/2017, 6:52:53 PM1 votes

Ornn is fine, learn to play him. He already got ninja buffed 1 or even 2 times, so don't trust the win rates, they are affected by release Ornn state + people playing their first games.

I think i am doing pretty well with him, top as well as jungle and even support.