Now that Xayah has been out a few weeks
What's the verdict? I'm having a blast playing her. Mixed success. What's the consensus on her power?
What's the verdict? I'm having a blast playing her. Mixed success. What's the consensus on her power?
she is BAE*[slayer-pantheon-rainbows]*
My opinion: She hurts like a tornado filled with broken glass.
The most surprising thing I've seen when I play her or play against her is that her highest damage output is with her hard CC ability. Usually giving hard CC to a carry champion is so they can land their damage easier (from my understanding). But Xayah's hard CC basically is her damage and it makes her ult a neat instant teamfight winner.
Now personally I enjoy playing her. I'm not very good at positioning the feathers, but it feels very satisfying to land a root with them. It makes me feel tricky, like I'm planning a few steps ahead (most of the time I just try to set up enough in one area quickly though). I didn't know you could move while casting her Q at first, which gives even more playmaking potential without being "hyper mobile".
Part of me wants to say she could use some damage nerfs, but that's only because I keep getting surprised by her E damage. She might be balanced, who knows? All I know is that when she's with Rakan, towers fall much faster than against any other adc.
http://current.lolalytics.com/champion/Xayah/
Looks fairly balanced to me. Especially if you look at the match-up section - she has matches in which she succeeds more and ones that she fails in more often.
Strong, but still not broken.
I think her damage is a little high, given how much extra range she gets from her passive. That being said, she is a VERY easy kill if you can get on top of her. Probably balanced. I definitely think the Rakan/Xayah combo is incredibly powerful as well.
am just gonna sit here sip on my honey tea and wait for the patch notes in the next few weeks. and pro play.
if shes picked in pro play (I would bet money on it she will be P/B). she will get a bunch of nerfs am sure. and she is probably too strong if that happens
UPDATE: I got downvoted even tho I did not say shes op or up. I just said pro play and patch notes will tell us if shes op or not.
Perfect.
Some strong matchups, some bad ones. Lots of damage and some mobility, but with loads of counterplay. Extremely fun to play.
One of Riot's best releases.
A lot of pro players are saying she's broken, but she doesn't seem so bad to be honest.
E overtuned Q slightly underwhelming could use some powershifts, maybe slight nerf
General Consensus is that she seems pretty balanced. She's generally relevant all-game, but she never feels oppressive.
For the most part she sort of struggles against long range hyper carry-esque champs. Kog, Twitch, Caitlyn and Jinx cause her trouble.
High but telegraphed damage. Learn to play against her feathers and you wont whine about her damage output. She's balanced. She has a kit full of counterplay options
She seems broken in some situations and garbage in others. I don't know what's causing that, though.
Also, she seems really fucking good in top lane.
I think she's a bit like ashe/jhin for high elos: To much damage potential for the utillity she offers. Her W is a to strong steroid, or her E a to powerfull nuke conidering that she basically has aoe on every AA and her E gives a strong aoe root. One might say she's vulnerable due to no mobillity, but the ms of her W shouldn't be underestimated if paired with the root and a support, and mostly her ult that makes her untargetable while movieng and seting up a good aoe root+burst makes her a lot less vulnerable than people think if used well.
I have as well, i actually got a penta with her a few days after her release. I feel like they'll probably tap her e somehow and move some damage to her ult instead.
She's a low-ELO stomper but I think will have problems at higher levels. Her feathers are fairly easy to dodge if you're higher in skill and she gets a ton of power from them. I think she's in a decent spot but I'd be surprised if she sees much pro play.
@thread Xayah is safe and easy. Like quinn, you just have to not feed and you WILL hyper-scale. Her ult is a better zhonyas on a lower cooldown too.
IMO Xayah seems a little too strong over all, but her Q seems too bad. Not sure how to make her Q more satisfying to use without of making her OP.
I think she could do without her root, and perhaps more damage on other parts of her kit instead, but otherwise I think she's excellently designed. In a League where many champions have been saddled with a ton of different effects just for the sake of standing out, it's refreshing to see a champion that manages to have a niche, good interaction, and tons of agency with a relatively straightforward kit. She doesn't have any dashes, team-wide utility or exceptional CC, but she still feels impactful and fun to play, and has clear advantages over many other marksmen that make her a valuable asset to a variety of team comps. I would love to see more kits with her level of accessibility and depth in the future, and I think she's a good example of efficient design.
she's fine, imo. it's just a bitch playing against her and a zoning support.
Rakan's a piece of shit tho.
Prolly gonna nerf her because of LC$. Her E might root Lee Win forbidding him of doing LC$ Fla$hy Favorite play$
I'd imagine she MAY get nerfed in the future, 3 feathers can half hit a squishy and she still has crits to do damage with.
Not to mention her piercing aoe auto attacks with bonus scaling, which is very strong, and her built in troll poll.
She does lots of damage, and has all the tools she needs to keep herself safe.
Her only real weakness I can think of is she isn't great in short engagements without her ultimate and her root is a bit telegraphed, but that won't matter if she has someone like Rakan or Braum or Mumu or anyone along those lines to set up for her, then she basically just obliterates everything under the sun.
I haven't played her much
However, I have played against her a lot. I can confirm, she is a quite a pain to deal with late game in team fights if you have a diving comp. She can self peel quite nicely and punish anyone trying to dive her.
Although, i do think she is quite balanced. More so, than any new champion released.
I am fine with most of her kit but that feather storm ult pull just oneshots way too many tanks.
I think her E is slightly overtuned. Could probably use a slight nerf on that or some sort of power shift.
e just makes her other abilities feel lackluster so maybe just moving her power around a lil?
I love playing with her, but I'm not a fan of playing into her. She reminds me of Caitlyn, Zyra... considering no-one's really experienced with her yet, I think she's seeing a little too much success.
She is quite balanced if she were nerfed all she would need is lowering E damage by like 5 or something
I think that a little too much of her power is accumulated into her E.
This also makes her deceptive, since she has an extended duration of sub-par damage, then presses E and boom. Not a healthy damage curve in my opinion, she should have better cues of how strong she is when fighting her.
sucks
I look forward to seeing Sneaky playing her.
I'd nerf her E damage damage and put some back into he AAs and make her feather hit box bigger for more reliability tbh.
That's just me tho.
I;m having trouble with her, I go on her and she ults away in a team fight and then suddenly I'm to deep
Idk she still seems wonky. I've played her a bit but always feel cheated on getting the root considering I KNOW at least 3 feathers go through the target while at the same time playing against her feels awkward since I almost always seem to get rooted (it generally just feels inconsistent more than anything is what I am getting at). Also, I do really feel the E+Flash interaction should PROBABLY go since it does ruin a lot of potential for playing around her feathers since it doesn't really matter where you stand if she can E+Flash and hit you with multiple feathers regardless of if the feathers were initially between you and them.
She's probably fine balance wise, but she will probably get on the strong side if we ever go back to the Ashe+Jhin+Varus meta since she DOES outdamage all of them currently while still providing close to the same amount of utility (and being much safer than them).
I would take out the E snare since it deals absurd damage and it's easy af to proc (Q>auto>E), and with her R it's even easier.
Instead I would give her more MS when she hits someone with W or increase her range.
Or keep the snare and put a damage reduction to targets being hit with more than 1 feather.
Perfectly balanced alone, pretty broken with Rakan. Rakan is semi broken alone, extremely broken with Xayah. Thats my opinion on the matter.
I think once people got the feather thing, it was easier to play against her. Just like Ekko. Once people learned what he was doing with all these slows, they started to clue in a little more. I mean, he's still packing a lot of heat, but...
My only real issue with Xayah is that her bonus for Rakan is kind of weird and could almost change up how Rakan wants to build and play. It's odd that he gets such a practical and usable bonus, but hers is sort of conditional (Rakan might not want to be that close to the fight, considering some tankier opponents or easier spread from the enemy ADC).
In all honesty, she's pretty well balanced and since her AAs are the only feathers she can guarantee an optimal placement on, constantly moving in turn against Xayah, or being able to push into the fight and then out of it (maybe like Ez?) means you can move behind her feather threshold and force her to reposition her fight.