Do some main JUNGLE kill krugs?

the shushi·8/21/2018, 12:22:37 PM·15 votes·11,449 views

I dont know, It takes soooooooooooo long to kill them it's not worth for me the little experiencie they give, i would rather gank some Lane and take 4-5 CS instead after the kill, or invade gromp or something, but these krugs are worthless. I would never do krugs unless we are at min 30 and almost have full build and i need 100g. They need a change

42 Comments

Need Gold 4 Tent8/21/2018, 12:30:30 PM19 votes

Nah, its there for your top lane tryndamere to take after he shoves his wave

ModKnightsKemplar8/21/2018, 3:26:57 PM7 votes

I think reducing the time it takes for them to split apart would help a bit.

Bârd8/21/2018, 4:10:33 PM3 votes

I see a lot of junglers kill the first couple of Krugs, but then just leave the split Krugs to despawn.

There are only two champions I play who like Krugs.

  • Ivern, since he can instantly kill them.
  • Mordekaiser (lane), since he can just dip back to the seldom-cleared camp to get a massive heal before heading back to lane.
DW Diana8/21/2018, 3:25:33 PM3 votes

depends on the champion. Nocturne and Shyvana take them easily early. Rengar on the other hand...

rtbf2216514128/21/2018, 3:03:13 PM3 votes

Fiddlesticks

Wolves and Krugs are his best clears.

Illabethe8/22/2018, 12:18:41 AM2 votes

You really have no clue what XP Krugs give, if you see it as "little" Krugs up until level 7 are better XP AND Gold than a Scuttle.

They are literally more important at low levels than Scuttle.

(Krugs are the only path to 3 camp level 3, and if you do them, you are almost level 5 by the first clear!)

P.S. What you said about lane minions was also extraordinarily wong: Until you have a COMPLETE jungle item, Lane minions give you a whopping 4 gold. You have a -10 Gold penalty vs Lane minions.

Here's a breakdown of how Gold/XP works on jungle mobs:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/6DqzDKL.png[/img]

Look at Krug's XP/Gold vs other options.

Daddy Ants8/21/2018, 2:19:24 PM2 votes

Most of the time I leave them for my top or bot lane.

I play things like Twitch jungle so Krugs are a pain in the ass for me to take.

Bob the Toastr8/21/2018, 5:56:32 PM2 votes

They honestly should give more XP or more gold for taking as long as they do and dealing as much damage as they do.

Leto GT8/21/2018, 2:21:21 PM2 votes

Depends on on the strat but usually yes. You do not have to do all the of them. The big one is 70g. Let's say it gives you some flexibility. They make you hit lvl4 if you start blue and go for a full clear.

DeadUnborn8/21/2018, 3:16:51 PM1 votes

There are 4 reasons I would ever do them.

1.- I'm rushing tiamat first back on a champ with poor early ganking/relatively low health like WW, Shyv/ Rengar 2.- I'm invading the enemy jungle and just kill the 2 first krugs and leave 3.- I only kill the small krug for some extra gold 4.- Is mid game and all lanes are pushed/I have nothing better to do


Yara08/21/2018, 3:58:55 PM1 votes

Smite the big one kill it then leave.

Unless you can clear it fast its a waste of time and your better off just abusing the other team during that time.

SwiftKitten888/21/2018, 4:00:15 PM1 votes

i do as Nidalee , but then i have two manaless aoe's on a 6 second cooldown

mack91128/21/2018, 4:34:43 PM1 votes

Not on my first clear

LetMeCarry19838/21/2018, 4:46:38 PM1 votes

Krugs are the only way in this new jungle to do 3 camps and hit level 3. I always try to get them, especially on my 1st clear. Note though, I play farm heavy junglers, them being Shyvana, Nocturne, Yi, and Tryndamere mainly.

ForFoxSakes8/21/2018, 4:55:16 PM1 votes

I usually don't take them until maybe my 3rd clear, just takes way too long and too far out of the way to do anything useful. On my first & 2nd clear I'd rather fight for scuttle, invade and then retake my first raptor/wolves camp which will have respawned than do them. Most of the time I'd rather just take an enemy camp than take my own krugs and if they want to stay even in camps then they can go find my krugs

Will only do them once I have items to burn them fast

Nøctμrne8/21/2018, 5:03:24 PM1 votes

I typically don't take them until I get a stronger jungle clear item or have already done my rounds and still have health to spend.

Clearing them fast also depends on the champion you use. Since I'm a Nocturne main I'm probably one of the only people who build tiamat rush first, but it gives me the fastest jungle clear in the game.

What champion are you playing?

Alex h87218/21/2018, 5:09:27 PM1 votes

Any jg w/ aoe clears em easy (Nocturne Shyvana LeeSin ), and jg's who build item 3077 can easily and quickely do it after 1st clear.

GodlyBane8/21/2018, 5:16:05 PM1 votes

somebody watched hashinshins stream last night didnt they :^)

Velasan8/21/2018, 7:50:01 PM1 votes

You do if you have high aoe, otherwise most people skip them until they have an item that helps you clear the camp faster. Krugs are the only camp that behave that way though, even raptor camp isn't that bad by comparison.

Linna Excel8/21/2018, 7:54:54 PM1 votes

They used to be better but riot nerfed them back when they gave more XP.

Saibbo8/21/2018, 8:55:11 PM1 votes

Just when I need an S and need CS number to get it

King I Rat8/21/2018, 9:01:08 PM1 votes

Unless I am fiending for gold, no, never. I may take the big one for 70g and leave if there is nothing else on that map for me to do cause by the time the stupid things finish their split animation my raptors will already be up so I might as well go get those instead.

TheSingularity8/21/2018, 11:00:48 PM1 votes

I recall rather than doing krugs, more productive use of my time.

Gromp is in the same camp, it needs to grant more XP because it shreds you and is almost as fat as buff.

Bears Dont Care8/21/2018, 11:01:23 PM1 votes

I do if i am playing a champ like evelynn who has a fast clear speed with aoe damage.

If itnis someone like warwick, its better to back for a tiamat and then clear then that way since thegold and exp vs time invesment is a little negative.

Most junglers though, can take them relatively quickly.

SugeMinPikk8/21/2018, 11:02:54 PM1 votes

Usually you only take them on your second clear or later. If you do decide to do kruggs at early levels, you generally only take the first 2. Some champions, like Kayn, can take enemy kruggs on their first clear.

DuskDaUmbreon8/21/2018, 11:04:13 PM1 votes

The only junglers that tend to take them are those who need the exp and gold (Yi, Evelynn pre-6, and the like), or those who clear fast enough that they can take it quickly (Such as Shyvana, or even Fiddle).

Most others will only take them if they have nothing else to do at the time, tbh. They just take too long.

Shinovar8/22/2018, 1:37:47 AM1 votes

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Hi! Krugs are the most important camp for a jungler since they are the best at giving experience. If Krugs are one of the first 3 camps you kill, you are level 3 before your fourth camp. Exclude them and you'll need 4 camps for the level 3. A very common jungle path is red>krugs>scuttler recall gromp>blue>wolves>raptors>krugs. This is the best path if you choose to gain more experience instead of gank early (safe enemies, ult reliant champ). As a jungler, always go to kill krugs whenever they spawn, if the game allows it. They will make sure you won't ever be underleveled.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

mzicio8/22/2018, 11:44:02 AM1 votes

I usually go red > raptors > wolves > blue > gromp > scuttle. When the raptors respawn I restart the whole clear but add krugs at the start.

Summonah123698/21/2018, 1:01:34 PM1 votes

Sometimes I do it if iI rlly need the xp or gold.

BrightWîngs8/21/2018, 1:36:44 PM1 votes

I normally end up smiting it especially first clear since you're not gonna really use it for anything else

Warlord Rhinark8/21/2018, 1:40:54 PM1 votes

When I play Jungle, I almost never take them.

When I play Top, I sometimes take them if I pushed the wave into the enemy tower and I'm waiting for them to push back towards mine. I can usually do this everytime because my Jungler doesn't take them either.

EvilUnicornLord8/21/2018, 1:54:03 PM1 votes

Yeah, they're not worth much.

They're essentially just a "no other options" bit of gold.

SzGamer2278/21/2018, 2:53:13 PM1 votes

As a Kayn main, enemy Krugs is part of my regular level 3 clear.

Playful Sadist8/21/2018, 2:54:25 PM1 votes

I'll take them on my second clear if I think bot might need a gank but is a little too pushed up at the time. Otherwise all just kill the initial krugs to get 80g then leave if I have something better to do.

Salron8/21/2018, 3:00:06 PM1 votes

I usually just clear the first 2 and leave the rest since it takes too long to do it all

Daizumi8/21/2018, 3:12:00 PM1 votes

To be honest I skip them for the first 2-4 mins unless if I get counter jungled or it’s the only thing to do