why are flex ques allowed to mix with solo ques? its a terrible way to play.
why cant we have dedicated solo only queue, duo and trio only queue, and full team only queue? why do they get to be mixed together?
Careful there, since what you said isn't how it works. Flex queue is entirely separate from solo/duo queue, so no mixing.
In solo/duo, you will only play with/against solos and duos. There may be arguments that it should be pure solo, but as it's stands it's both solos and duos, but you'll never face trios/quads/5mans.
In flex, it's intended to be a more organized team environment, so by queueing solo you're counting on your ability to mesh with randoms, so facing against premades is somewhat to be expected there. If you want a more individual thing, then that's what solo/duo is for.
In both cases though, matchmaking does try to match against premades of the same size. So if you're play flex as a trio, you will most likely face another trio. When matchmaking fails to find a like sized premade, it does give some behind the scenes mmr tweaks to account for the premade advantage, so while they might be a bigger premade, your group in theoretically slightly more skilled so the game is expected to be 50:50 based on the mmrs of those involved.
It's possible when you said 'flex' you really just meant a premade, and not the actual flex ranked queue and you knew they were separate, but probably worth pointing it out to be sure.
First off, This is worded kind of... off. You make it sound like Flex queue for Flex then get placed against solo/duo.
Secondly, This topic comes up every once in a while and I have to say this every time. Not everyone takes ranked as a 100% serious display of personal skill. People want to try, and climb, but also still want to have an enjoyable experience, so they bring 1 friend along.
Fun fact; Ranked 5-man only WAS a thing, key word was. No one played it. It didnt feel like ranked. As such the queue times could get very long. So Riot made DynQ which people hated, which is where we are today.
More queues are ALWAYS worse, sure you COULD make it more serious and tryhard, but that would alienate anyone who wants to TRY but not make it too serious. Think of it this way. I believe less that 1/3rd of Leagues total people actually play Ranked, probably less, especially daily. So thats 33% play ranked. Not to many play flex so lets say solo/duo has 20% of the leagues population and flex has 13%. Now lets split it again. In my personal opinion Duo/Trio would probably be more popular than Flex, and Flex would GREATLY lose people going back to 5man so probably like: Solo 10% Duo/Trio 18% Flex 5%. This causes ALL queue times in ALL ranks to be longer. Just so that you no longer have the excuse of "The JG camped me because OBVIOUSLY hes doing with my laner."
Wait, that's a thing?
Coordinated teams of 5 can play against solo-queued people who aren't talking?
That's not fair at all!
