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More tank shred items?

sepiormon·1/2/2017, 2:18:04 AM·2 votes·10,762 views

I feel like because of this tank meta, a team with 3 good peeling tanks wil win the game 90% of the time aganst a team with no natural tank shreders ( ). I recently played a game as , and went 6/0/1. I build with a few other necessary items. Even with all my damage and last wispier, I could never kill a tank and they would always outrun, outdamage and outsustain me. was a huge issue that game, he played jg and fed but was still able to kill me while my entire team was focusing him. I don't understand why tanks are such a huge factor in winning games.

I really feel like there should be more items in the game dedicated to dealing with tanks, or atleast have because of this ADC has become a pointless role due to the lack of damage ADC's do to tanks.

Another thing could to have actually build into another item, so ADCs have an option against high armor, high hp, high sustain tanks like .

Ps. What is the most effective (and realistic) build for dealing with tanks?

11 Comments

Doseqis1/2/2017, 2:30:25 AM2 votes

You didn't build the grevious wounds LW vs Trundle IDK what you expected.

Draven isn't good vs tanks as well. Building a GA or Steraks also helps out a ton in my experiance.

3 Tanks are countered by peeling them off an ADC and them hammering them with LW plus crits.

bbQsauçe1/2/2017, 2:20:06 AM1 votes

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Rebonack1/2/2017, 2:20:23 AM1 votes

Still want a Bloodrazor item for non-Junglers again.

item 3105 item 1043 item 3101 with 4% MaxHP Magic damage would be sexy.

MatthewRT21/2/2017, 2:19:11 AM1 votes

maybe some more magic pen items but armor pen is fine

Lovelle1/6/2017, 2:46:33 AM1 votes

There's no need. Crit and armor penetration still shred tanks late game, just like they always have. It's just that armor penetration isn't OP anymore, so tanks can actually do their job for most of the game now.

SuperRiceBoi2/15/2018, 8:17:36 PM1 votes

I know this is coming a year late, but here's what I've noticed. If you're playing Vayne, of course Rageblade is the best way to go. BORK is also a fantastic item, it does 4% current health bonus on-hit (synergizes with Rageblade) which ignores armor I believe. Another option is Black Cleaver (removes 4% armor per hit, up to 6 hits), but that's situational against a primarily tank comp. On the fringe would be Frozen Mallet, which provides a slow and health (no armor shred though) which can help kiting, but at the expense of AD (it only provides 30 AD).

I'd say after last whisper items, BORK is the first way to go.

Of course, Vayne is your tank team counter, and Kalista's rend can benefit from Black Cleaver.

Just to let you know, armor functions like this: armor is basically de facto health. At 100 Armor, you take half the damage you would without armor, so basically 200% of your nominal health. 200 armor is 300% of your nominal health, 300 armor 400% of your nominal health, etc.

Accordingly, you don't want to run flat armor pen, but rather percent armor pen. Of course, not many champs I can think of, except Rammus, are gonna stack that much armor, but in this case Black Cleaver is more beneficial the more armor they stack.

Hope this helps, and if I'm wrong somewhere, corrections are appreciated.

ThugWalrus1/2/2017, 2:27:47 AM1 votes

hmm against trundle I personally woulda went mortal reminder instead of LDR, just to deal with his crazy sustain, but yeah personally I think Trundle is low-key pretty strong. Not sure why he doesn't see more play.