Which Keystone Is Best On Ryze?

Nitrabyte·1/4/2017, 6:41:47 PM·1 votes·2,906 views

I'm a ryze main and have been playing him long enough to get an 83% win rate in ranked. However, I've always gone thunderlords out of habit, I feel it provides a decent bit more damage in laning phase and allows me to get ahead. There are 3 possible options for keystones on ryze I've heard of

Stormraiders surge
Courage of the colossus 3.Thunderlords decree

I'm willing to try new yet I feel as if the key stones are lane specific? like top lane take COTC and mid take stormraiders or thunder?

I suppose COTC would be good with the new ryze nerf to his shield prompting more people to go it but I was wondering which the community thinks is best?

EDIT- Also, there's like windspeakers blessing on ryze aswell? Idk about that but ryze support maybe?

6 Comments

Reaper Soraka1/4/2017, 7:16:06 PM3 votes

Stormraider's is pretty mean on Ryze since he hits so hard so fast. It also enables him to chase down his target once he lands 2-3 spells (or run away if necessary.)

But I have a 0% win rate on Ryze because I haven't played him outside of ARAM. You're the expert, you tell me! :D

Alex h87211/4/2017, 6:52:27 PM2 votes

CoC would probably be pretty good lategame as the shield scales w/ the # of enemy champs in the area so it would provide a decently strong shield for lategame teamfights and you'd have seraph's embrace shield as well.

Imo thunderlords is about even throughout the game, scales as you level but wont become as big of a factor in lategame teamfights as CoC just good steady extra damage throughout the game.

And I'd say stormraiders would be best for early/midgame but would start losing effectiveness later due to MS cap and diminishing returns on extra MS.

I'm only mastery 5 on ryze and don't have the ranked winrate w/ him worth talking about. But Imo I would say its situational, example if your team doesn't have a lot of peel, CoC would be a good choice b/c it gives you that bit of extra survivability vs ganks and in teamfights. Or if you're against a strong earlygame champ stormraiders so you can have a better chance to get that early lead.

I definitely think thunderlords is the most balanced/middle of the road of the 3 w/ its consistent damage.

Slythion1/4/2017, 6:46:27 PM1 votes

personally I prefer stormraiders, although I still remember getting my ass kicked by a thunderlords ryze

Bunnymap1/4/2017, 7:24:33 PM1 votes

I'm fairly sure stormraiders is meta on ryze

kappapepper1/21/2017, 11:16:36 PM1 votes

From my experience, since all of his damage comes from a skill shot that can be body-blocked, he needs to reposition a lot during team fights and in laning to land a Q on a priority target past a front line or minions. Stormraiders is ideal for repositioning mid fight as it also reduces slows. I feel TL is only a super early keystone as he doesn't need the extra damage past 3 items. CotC seems like it would be more useful if the back line has a lot of mobility/escape potential e.g ezreal, katarina, fizz etc. With an inacessable backline a viable option would be to take down the frontline first. CotC is perfect for face tanking the frontline at the start of a teamfight and moving onto the carrys after. Just my thoughts, feedback always appreciated