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Is it hard to get out of silver or am I just bad?

Hardstuck Thresh·11/29/2018, 1:00:37 PM·6 votes·7,728 views

I have been playing league for quite some time, maybe 2 years and I understand that I am not the best player in fact I'm actually really bad compared to like 90% of people who play and I am ranked silver 5. Now I have read lots and understand that every game is winnable and you need to focus on your mistakes rather than the mistakes of your team so I have done that lately and improved quite a bit over the past few months but gotten nowhere. Most of my plat friends just tell me to work on my macro gameplay because my mechanics are pretty good but it honestly just seems almost impossible to get out of silver. I played a game yesterday where a player literally admitted to trying to get his account permabanned after inting the entire game and using several racial slurs in all chat. More than a quarter of my games in silver 5 have something like this happen with a person intentionally feeding and saying that they want to lose and of course my plat friends are saying oh just hard carry but I am no where near good enough to carry a game where there is a 5/20 blitzcrank running it down mid. I understand that I make a lot of mistakes and am still a pretty bad player but it feels impossible to get out of silver.

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Saezio11/29/2018, 1:24:12 PM4 votes

OK, if you want some tips here it goes.

Play early game champions (half the games someone just afks/trolls/ints if they don't have the lead early)
Play mid or jungle or a split pusher top. Stay away from tanks and teamfighters, you want strong 1v1 2v2 champs
Stick to 2-3 champions MAXIMUM. Its better to play your onetrick jax mid instead of trying the OP flavor of the month.
ALWAYS KEEP TRACK OF WAVES.
Towers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kills
Ward shit when you are pushing and ALWAYS assume ALL the ? people are half a screen away.
When you are laning in silver, you never need to make the play, let them fuck up their play and counter then. Never tower dive, just find some gold somewhere, if they have to recall its as good as like 150g.
Never give stuff to the team (buffs etc)
NEVER TYPE ANYTHING. use pings instead. Only type if the whole team seems friendly and you are already winning.

lolipopevelynn11/29/2018, 1:38:48 PM3 votes

Being stuck in silver has little to do with skill but everything to do with what champs you play.

Certain champs are impossible to climb out of silver with despite them being good in high elo such as lee. Lee is a playmaker and gets his lanes ahead, but he cant really carry on his own. The problem with that in silver is you are gambling and you will lose that gamble 70% of the time because silver's don't know how to use their advantage. They are ultra selfish players, so much so that they will throw a tantrum if you "ks" or tax 3 cs.

So that means its best that you play a hyper carry and simply not die. Play yi, udyr, irelia, any adc, trynd, etc. Any champ that can split push and chain together multi kills easily, aka a champ that isnt gated by CDs to get kills. If you are a mage main play only burst mages like veig and annie since they have low CDs and very powerful aoe CC +dmg.

GripaAviara11/29/2018, 3:15:43 PM3 votes

To get out of silver you need to:

be good
be lucky
play meta

No point is optional

emarythomp211/30/2018, 7:19:05 AM2 votes

Honestly what everyone will say is pretty much bullshit.

You actually answered your own question in your post. Your plat friends said you need to work on your macro. Macro helps you climb a lot faster. Just learning when to tp, when to rotate, map awareness can get you really high mmr.

So:

Focus on your macro and also make sure your csing is damn near perfect.
Play any champ you want. I climbed out of silver and gold with garen bro. You don't need a hyper carry or an early game champ. If you fine tune your macro and csing and mechanics you can climb with anyone.
Actually KNOW your mistakes. I know you say that it's good to learn from your mistakes but the problem might be that you actually don't know what you're doing wrong or if what you did was wrong. This is very hard to recognize but I suggest looking up on youtube, a guy called LS. Watch his silver and csing VODs about proper toplane macro and shit. Me personally it took me like 2 months to realize only half the mistakes I was constantly making in silver
/muteall or /mute player if you have too. You don't actually have to type to your team to communicate often. And seeing them type can tilt you and make you lose focus. Also don't get tilted when a teammate dies. I know that's hard, but practice getting used to it. Especially in silver.
It's better to climb in Jng technically but if you climb in laning you NEED to have the mindset of either smashing your opponent or going even. I can't stress this enough, but playing safe in this meta doesn't work. That's how you get tower dived. Get a more aggressive, but smart-aggressive playstyle. A lot of low elo people are low because they play too safe and end up dying, which can tilt them because they died while playing safe.
This is really important. Try your ABSOLUTE best every game. Use 100% of that brain power to watch the map while also csing. Use ALL of your knowledge and use it in game while also remaining FOCUSED. Focusing on what you need to do to win and not your teammates is key.

Also learning this won't help you win 100% of your games but it'll increase your chances

qwerty1911/29/2018, 3:10:48 PM2 votes

I climbed from Bronze 1 to Gold 5 this past season as a Support main and let me tell you. The sheer amount of games you have to deal with that are exactly like this happen wayyyy to often. I'd say its a 50/50 chance you or the enemy team have someone like that on their team so over time those games should even out, you just have to focus on the games that are winnable. Because some games given the circumstances that you have been dealt are just unwinnable and you have to accept that. No one wins every game they play and most people win around half of their games. Biggest thing I can tell you to climb out of that hell is to pick champions with a stronger early game, has an engage/escape, and has a good team fight (even 2 of those 3 is good). Those champs will help you take over games more often and be less reliant on your ape teammates. I always assume I am the best player on my team so don't expect anything from them and you wont get disappointed (I know thats a more negative view on your teammates but it helps me not get tilted because I now expect them to do stupid stuff). Oh and dont chase kills, let them back and go take an objective while they are in base.

Happy climbing

1800NICECLIENT11/29/2018, 9:18:46 PM2 votes

I'm surprised at the responses here. Silver is very easy to get out of. If you are struggling in that elo it's likely you have some issues with micro/macro that are bigger than you think. Usually they are just bad habits learned from playing normals or with friends. Question what you've learned from them and see if you can find better ways to do things. If you need help add me in game and I can coach you of you'd like. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] PS: Coaching invite extends to anyone who wants it not just OP.

Ifneth11/29/2018, 9:55:00 PM2 votes

In general, here’s all you need to play League at a mid-Diamond level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iko2tqmDpJQ&vl=en

It’s a video series, about twenty videos long, with each video being 10-20 minutes. Watch and rewatch it. These are the “fundamentals” you have heard so much about.

In particular, you are trying to be Mr. Awesome, with lots of mechanical and snowball champs, and playing two different roles. It’s definitely more than you need to do in order to climb, and remember that you’ll get the same feeling from promoting as you would from stomping. So, here’s how to change that.

First, pick the position you like most and devote yourself to it, whether that’s Top or Jungle. Second, pick your favorite champ for that role and main it. Third, whether you’re winning or losing, enjoy that you’re playing League of Legends on your main and in your role. After all, fun is why we play!

Next, read your champion’s op.gg and learn their correct builds. Notice that the first item is almost always the same, the second item is usually the same, and that the third item varies somewhat. Those first two items form the core, and the third is the beginning of situational builds. Ask yourself how these items work together; e.g., Warrior, Trinity Force, and Guardian Angel on Xin Zhao make him his abilities hit harder, more often, and empower his attacks while protecting him enough to let him reach his targets.

Between games, also read your champion’s lore. This should be a consideration when maiming them, by the way. Pick someone you can relate to or who’s a fantasy for you. For example, if you want to feel like an unstoppable warlord, pick Aatrox. Learn as much as you can about them. See their lore matchups, both as classes or individually; e.g., Yasuo vs Riven or Teemo vs everything good in the world. This will help immerse you.

Also read about your role. Splitpushing for top lane. Paths for jungle. Watch the best players in the world play it and try to understand, even though they make it look easy. Try to be as cool under pressure as they are. Do this every day you play. Watch tournaments, too. It’s also just good fun.

Please, tell me what you think and how this goes. I want to help you.

Alzon11/30/2018, 12:01:06 AM1 votes

In my experience, here’s what it takes to climb out of bronze, silver, and then gold:

Bronze: Look at the map. That’s it.

Silver: Learn to last-hit and how waves work.

Gold: Get a feel for when to fight and when not to by being experienced with different kits and matchups. Learn how to set up for and play around objectives.

And I believe the difference between Plat and Diamond will be warding consistently.

ZerglingOne11/30/2018, 12:01:52 AM1 votes

Silver can be difficult to get out of because the group there is so wildly inconsistent. More than any other level because it's what a new account starts in.

It's equal parts people that belong there, platinum+ smurfs, people on their way to bronze 5, and literally everything else in between.

Sleep On Stream11/30/2018, 3:32:34 AM1 votes

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I have been playing league for quite some time, maybe 2 years and I understand that I am not the best player in fact I'm actually really bad compared to like 90% of people who play and I am ranked silver 5. Now I have read lots and understand that every game is winnable and you need to focus on your mistakes rather than the mistakes of your team so I have done that lately and improved quite a bit over the past few months but gotten nowhere. Most of my plat friends just tell me to work on my macro gameplay because my mechanics are pretty good but it honestly just seems almost impossible to get out of silver. I played a game yesterday where a player literally admitted to trying to get his account permabanned after inting the entire game and using several racial slurs in all chat. More than a quarter of my games in silver 5 have something like this happen with a person intentionally feeding and saying that they want to lose and of course my plat friends are saying oh just hard carry but I am no where near good enough to carry a game where there is a 5/20 blitzcrank running it down mid. I understand that I make a lot of mistakes and am still a pretty bad player but it feels impossible to get out of silver.

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FCJAAAAGOOOO11/30/2018, 3:46:16 AM1 votes

Being able to carry the average game goes a long way, from silver to plat and possibly further on.

That being said, there are some games that you literally cannot carry. Your teammates will afk. Your team will outright surrender at 20 before they've even lost an inhibitor turret. There are some people just destined to lose their ranked games moreso than anyone on their team is destined to win them.

hi ìm groot11/30/2018, 3:47:00 AM1 votes

Narrow your champ pool. You play too many different styles. Que the same main role and off role every game, play 2-4 champs that have similar playstyles but differ in some significant way as to give you diversity. Make sure they're not overly team reliant, as in silver you have no idea wtf people are going to do. And learn what it is YOU should be doing, without assuming you already know, no matter how many games you've already done it. If you're playing a champions macro right, and it isn't outside of your mechanics level, you should see fairly consistent climbing up through gold.

Marian Cross11/30/2018, 6:52:20 AM1 votes

Just play whatever you have fun playing as. You will get int'er(probably a lot of them), but if you are playing a champ you love to play and you know the champ in every way and in every situation then the chance that someone on the other team messes up and you can take that will go up by a mile. I know it does not sound like great advice but it will help.

Also keep in mind most of the playerbase is sliver and below so getting to gold is not a super easy task(despite what some say)

dark100dark10011/30/2018, 8:04:49 AM1 votes

The problem is not your skill, but your rank/skill pair. If you are better than your rank, the matchmaking compensates by giving you worse teammates, to force you back. Also if you are lower than your rank, the game starts giving you better players. The result of this is streaks. You win 10 games and then loose 10 games and back to square 0. You can climb if you are 2-3 times better than your rank, but if you are just 20-30% better you cannot climb. Also if you are 20-30% worse than your rank you cannot drop. If you feel your invested time is wasted, try other games, or get a real life.

DW Diana11/30/2018, 9:48:46 AM1 votes

Concentrate on a few scaling champions. Getting out of silver isn't about hard carrying every game, in fact at that elo its a very easy way to lose. Instead learn a champion that CAN carry, but is also useful to the team. Took examples of this are control mages. I claimed from B1 to G5 in less than 150 games playing Malz. Yes I got autofilled, yes I got trolls (so many trolls....) but in the end I came away with over 60% winrate by just being able to play a safe scaling carry :)

Hammermancer11/30/2018, 1:34:01 PM1 votes

Good and bad are comparative so you're not bad just average at worst

But its hard to climb naturally, just note all the things your teammates do to piss you off and make sure you don't do them

Then youll be better

Rinse and repeat

Done2511/29/2018, 1:16:56 PM1 votes

The thing about Silver is that it's massively inconsistent. Either learn a hyper carry ala Yi/Kai'sa, or learn how to Support one.

Fondling Gems11/30/2018, 1:34:38 PM1 votes

Just gonna pop in to mention that it is always good to keep in mind that Silver alone makes up about 45% of the playerbase. When you factor in Bronze as well Silver 1 is actually in the top 50% of LoL players.

I just find it is always good to keep perspective on these things, Gold is nice to aim for because of the skins, but less than 1/3 players (Who play ranked) actually get Gold.

Anyways as for actual advice I recommend watching the replays of your games, both wins and losses, to try and figure out where you made mistakes. Then keep them in mind going into your next game.

CS is also really important, or learning how to efficiently clear/kite jg camps if you plan to play jg. In lower elos people don't cs very well, so even just being able to last hit decently can net you a huge gold lead early. Wave management is a good skill to learn as well, though not as important as in previous seasons. If you like to play immobile champions it is really good to know though.

ThisGamelsTrash11/29/2018, 2:31:46 PM1 votes

I feel you man. I'm also stuck in silver. I'd win like 5 games in a row and barely get lp, lose one game and lose like 20 lp. I noticed that it's always bot lane that has the feeders so I just started playing ezreal and now almost am ranked up.

i suggest playing master yi tho. he's the easiest champ and can carry hard

Hardstuck Thresh11/29/2018, 3:34:42 PM1 votes

Thanks guys I appreciate it, I'll be honest I expected most people to say "you're just trash" but thanks for the help!

Dr Dog11/29/2018, 3:39:43 PM1 votes

its pretty rough without a duo tbh, skill is barely the thing holding you back in silver a lot of the time its just inters trolls flaming babys etc, i got out but one of my friends literally got an afk 5 games in a row and i cant even carry duoing with him at his rank because of how awful his luck with teams is

minorhacks11/29/2018, 8:09:13 PM1 votes

I feel your pain. Got to promos again so I get that one free win. 1st game mid jungle and us in bot all have a lead like 2 to 1 or 3 to 1 kill scores. Up in gold. Problem is top urgot is 0 and 6 into an illoai and she just took 1st tower. Jungle and urgot try to stop her double kill..she is still up. Mid and urgot..double kill again. Nothing else mattered because illiao was so feed and we all had to leave lane to try slow her down. 2nd game leona top..she didn't suck but she had no chance to win lane. Me support with a kai who runs to tower and afks under tower for 1st 3 or 4 waves. Im trying to farm some getting poked 2v1...fun times. Kai comes back as they ignite me and run to.escape them she dives them and dies. Flames me for not going in...all downhill from there.

I mean i do suck, make bad plays etc but sometimes its just hopeless regardless of my play.

Marshbouy11/29/2018, 11:03:42 PM1 votes

I got out of silver in like...50 games? so yeah, you just need some time to learn.

The Curator11/29/2018, 11:55:02 PM1 votes

I climbed out of silver with exactly 50% winrate and failing promos twice in a row for the two free wins. So it's not hard, you just need to keep playing.