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Doctor Fillgood·8/20/2018, 6:18:35 AM·1 votes·1,151 views

Hi there. You might know me. You probably don't. I'm not amazing or super skilled or great or anything like that at all. I am pretty good though. For the trolls I gave you a poll so that you don't even have to waste your time commenting.
I have to ask, what do you do when you don't hard carry? What happens when your team is just horrible (or being outplayed in 2 out of 3 lanes before the circle jerk comes to your lane)? I used to really enjoy league...but now it's just unfun. It's kind of depressing and feels like nothing more then a waste of time to play. It's not something I really enjoy, though I keep playing because either someone asks me to play or because I'm hoping maybe I'll actually get in a good game. This is a terrible thought to have. I haven't been outside of silver in a couple seasons...i can't bring myself to do the grind...it's more about playing against my own team then the other, it has been for a while. I mainly play support (played top for a little bit but then a bunch of changes and lethality and it didn't feel right anymore) and the drastic changes feel like knee jerk reactions that, no matter the meta, I can't seem to make a big enough difference to win games. All it takes is one lane feeding (usually top) or one person just completely pissing off or trolling...and the game is more or less dumpstered. It feels like I have minimum impact outside of my lane and despite if I do good or not, I have to hope my entire team at least does decently or the game is over by first tower. Or on my first back bot tower is lost right away. What's the idea here? How do I go back to enjoying the game? I don't mind loosing sometimes, especially if it's a good game, or I get outplayed...but someone hyper mobile/CCin'g me from 100-0 isn't really feeling like being out-skilled...it feels like a cop out of what should be interaction.

If we can avoid trolling or the usual "git good" I would appreciate it. As I said, I'm not the greatest player, but I know I'm better then where I'm at. I know I can play with people on a higher caliber then myself, and generally enjoy it. Feels like a closer game, and like there's more back and forth...maybe a chance to come back sometimes. I'm asking in honesty because I would like to enjoy league again. I would like to want to play ranked again. I would like to feel like climbing won't feel like I'm playing against myself because one or two bad games means I'm back at the bottom again, because the trolls, feeders or 'smurfs' are just dumpster the quality of games.

Does anyone have any advice other then quit? I would appreciate it. Thanks for taking the time to read, I know it's a lot, I hope you all have an awesome night.

3 Comments

Inkling Commando8/20/2018, 7:01:02 AM1 votes

i am lvl 104 now and have seen every type of player out there. the feeder, the feeding, the troll, the asshole, the ping spammer, the toxic, the carry, the leader, everything. and one thing to help me have a fun game is to simply don't give a fuck unless the team is nice to me. i have done my research and i learned that given the choice people choose to be assholes over being nice. i never call lanes during champ select (no reason to argue over that but i have seen arguments and even dodges cause someone called a lane first) and when i go to a lane someone is in unless they ask me nicely to leave, which rarely happens even after dropping subtle and point blank hints, i simply don't give a fuck. half the time it works out and we still win but other times we lose and everyone blames me and says to report me which is fine by me. and another thing to help me have fun is to not care about winning. i try and help my team to win but it is not a high priority to me. if we win great. if not oh well. cause, not many people know this, at the end of the day underneath all that toxicity and competitiveness it is just another game. the game itself is not toxic and bad it is the players that play it that make it toxic and bad. by playing for as long as i have, i have grown near immune to the bullshit other players spread with their toxic. but one thing that still annoys the hell out of me is people trying to call a surrender. like, hello? that ain't the point of the game. the point is to get nexus and only nexus. who cares if the enemy is fed or we got a troll on the team or whatever. just play the game and don't try to take a mulligan by surrendering. that ain't fun for anybody.

phew. sorry about that long ass rant.

Zero Shingetsu8/20/2018, 8:44:04 AM1 votes

You'll have to define "hard carry". Is it purely a matter of KDA? I've had pretty garbage performances and still won games when my teammates had average showings. Not every game is salvageable, and that's just a sad fact of literally any endeavor. For most, however, I've found I can swing it if I do things that put the team in better position overall. I like to think of myself as something of a... guardian angel, as it were. My team may not see what I'm doing or realize I'm doing it. Sometimes they even trash me because it gets me killed or requires building non-standard items. But if I die pushing the enemy away from the lane my team was ignoring, or backing them off dragon, or setting up a confidence-boosting 2v4 victory, it doesn't really matter if I get any glory, because it often turns games around.

ROYALR3IGN8/20/2018, 3:24:26 PM1 votes

Probably one of the best tips someone game me is to keep a level head even if you're losing. I've come back from games where we are down 9k gold at 20 minutes just cause the other team was making too many mistakes (believe me there is no shortage of mistakes made in silver). But its not only about recognizing a mistake, but also understanding when you can get away with punishing a mistake. If you're playing Xayah and have 50 cs, and you see a 5-0 Kai Sa with 200 cs and 3 items over you, fat finger flash, even though its a mistake you do no go in a try to punish that shit.

If your whole team is losing then do your best to have everyone stall the game out to catch up in gold remember 16 cs is equal to about 1 kill .

Do the little things like warding defensively, and path defensively to avoid being caught out more.

Keeping an eye on the map and understanding the number of players that can show up to a fight is really important in judging the amount of gold that you're up against when you're deciding whether or not to catch that split pushing Yasuo.

As for personal tips if you've even gone down by 1 kill in lane focus on farming and not dying anymore. Making yourself easy to carry is an important skill to have.