Riot, we need to talk.

Emperør Rhaast·11/23/2019, 7:02:07 PM·2 votes·1,729 views

I had a pretty good game with Senna the other day. My final K/DA was 18/2/24, with my final vision score being around 80-90.

Can you guess what grade I got?

B+.

Yes. B+.

How exactly in the name of god is that even possible? I had 2nd most damage, most kills, least deaths, most kill participation, highest vision score, all the rest. Anyone care to explain a little?

12 Comments

Mr Sa1nt11/23/2019, 7:08:36 PM1 votes

Well vision score I don't think has anything to do with the grading system.

Really it mainly has to do with the amount of kills/assists you have, at that specific timing of the game. Also the amount of CS you have is very relevant as well. If you play Senna and go 5/0/5 at 30 minutes, with low CS, you're going to have a bad grade. But if you play her and get higher than average kills/assists/CS by that same 30 minute marker, your grade will be higher.

Plus Senna is just strong right now, I'm imagining there are a lot of players getting ridiculous high K/D/CS scores, while maintaining low death rates. And the grade is also specific to the champion, not to the game. Meaning you can get a worse score on another champion, and still get an S+

TeodorusofNoxus11/23/2019, 7:23:41 PM1 votes

Grading is based on your performance compared to other Senna players. Vision is important for other supports(who don't farm or do that much damage). As a result the performace of an S Braum would be 2 1 20 vision 40 and 25 farm. But Senna is an adc realistically and she has better CS. And since the system compares you with other Senna players you must have a few things

More kills than the average Senna player 2. Less deaths 3. More cs. This is true for all champs. As any champs you have to have better stats than the other players playing them. If said stats are much better you get an S. But since many Senna players pop off and get many kills and she is new, the system calculates your awesome score as slightly above average. Calculating her grade is harder because she farms more than other supports, kills more and does a lot more damage. I too think that your score is S worthy, but honestly, the way the system calcultes it is dumb to say the least. One game I am 21 11 10 and I get an S-. Other games I am 15 4 10 and get an A+, because some minor aspect like farm or Vision fucked me up. And Riot never tell you- in order to get S you must have (instert stats here). And when you get a random S it feels weird. If you keep it up you will eventually get an S when she gets a few nerfs and people stop playing her so much. GL man

Austin Covello11/23/2019, 8:01:09 PM1 votes

Based on your role, I'm not sure how valid your criticism is in the context of the game you played, but I'm not sure how I feel about the grading to begin with. The grading system is too stat-based and doesn't take into consideration the context for why you might have low farm (ie, you were farming champs the whole time, making sure you don't feed, you're needed in a teamfight instead of grabbing that juicy wave on the sidelane), why you didn't zig when the grading system says you should have zagged, etc. They need maybe a breakdown or line-item page of how they came to get the overall grade or something. But yes, the grading system needs work. If you're desperate for that S/S+, it might facilitate poor judgement which could cost the game.