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Debunking "Elo Hell" Some Reason why it doesn't exist

Irelia Recks U·11/5/2015, 2:24:30 PM·1 votes·563 views

For this post Elo Hell is referring to silver/bronze

  1. My teammates are holding me back: This logic is flawed and is quickly debunked with the Common Denominator Argument. Whats the common factor in all your games? YOU. Not the teammate that fed 5 kills to riven before 10 mins and not the guy that afk and lost you a game. You get cycled with new teammates every game and the only thing that's the same is you. You yourself determine what rank you're at not that one game that someone afk'd. 2.Well my team doesn't Listen, Group, Or team fights wrong: Something you have to realize is that bronze/Silver are the worst tiers in the game so they people you play with dont understand how the game is supposed to be played. They dont understand the game like diamonds. If they did they wouldn't be in this elo. So dont get mad when people dont do things that are "right". But if you think you are better then this elo with lets be honest everyone does you should be making the right calls, getting fed to the point you can solo carry and simply winning your team the game. Well smurfs/AFKs/Etc Ruin my game: I've seen a lot of these posts recently and here is my input: For starters I think If you get a smurf against you thats unlucky and most likely you're going to lose. But that should give you the motivation to climb because you are first hand witnessing someone carry. Secondly For the sake of this post lets say you play 30 games. Out of the 30 games you get 4 smurfs and 6 afk/dc's thats 10 games that you're going to lose and their is nothing you can do about it. But on the flip side that leaves 20 games that both teams are equal no afk's no smurfs carrying the game. That leaves 20 normal games THAT YOU INFLUENCE. If you win your lane and go 5-0 before 20 mins with cs lead you can solo win your team the game. Plus if you think youre better then your elo you should find yourself having easy lanes and seeing al lot of mistakes your opponent is making. Simply put you are the Common Factor in your games. At the flip of a coin you could be on the other team. With enough games played you will always end up at the elo you deserve.

3 Comments

GLV Beamer11/5/2015, 2:39:46 PM1 votes

I agree very much. I am in silver and have come to understand it but it annoys me when people are like that

Saltinc11/5/2015, 2:48:04 PM1 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2000392843/201655345?tab=overview

Just played this game. I will admit I dc'd during this game but the ashe was already 1/5/1 and it was 20+ minutes into the game. Of course thats not the end of the world. It took me 4 minutes to get back to the game and she was 1/12/5. I immediately got back into the swing of the game by getting a double and started csing again. You have to admit, some people just tilt so hard that no matter what you do, they are bound and determined to lose. I've been in silver for a year now and nothing has changed. I'd say its about 40/60 that teammates will tilt so hard that they just lose the will to play. It's not a matter of dc's and toxicity most of the time. It's mostly being out played and getting super tilted and then everything else just falls into place, rather quickly too.

My point being, it is the bronze/silver player mentality that has made this region of ranked "Elo Hell" and I have not the faintest idea of how it could be fixed.

xl Kirito lx11/5/2015, 7:24:42 PM1 votes

It's kind of interesting thou, I remember seeing a post on GD a bit ago about how a few Diamond players were having trouble leveling their smurfs through silver. They attributed it to how inconsistent the rank is, where you'll get people who have 200+ cs at 20min, and then you'll get people who have X > 50 cs at 20min. Then more generic stuff like people focusing poorly in fights, making poor calls.

I've seen it also. I'll spectate silver games, and watch as one adc will have amazing farm, and the other won't farm at all. Or people will stay in lane at 10% hp, and complain that Riven or Zed are OP. It's not as bad as many people make it out to be, but there's something there.