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Ranked Bans PLEASE

LightswornLance·11/1/2019, 11:42:19 PM·23 votes·10,772 views

A lot of people complain about the low quality of ranked games and most blame it on match making. But really think about it. What is riot supposed to do? These bad players are inting your gold games so they put them in silver games. Now they just int silver games. The fundamental problem is that ANY player can que up for a ranked game and riot will let them. I suggest that riot add's bans to JUST RANKED, if you get reported and validly found to be inting. It isnt that hard to automate a system that determines if someone is inting. Just take into account kill participation, relative farm to game average based on time, role, and champ ( they already have this data ), time in lane, objectives taken / damage to objectives, damage done, etc. If they get reported for inting by x or more people and they are deemed to be inting by the above system, just don't let them play ranked for x amount of time. Don't do any of that remove their honor BS, just don't let them play ranked. TBH even if it was just a 6 hour ranked ban it would greatly increase the quality of ranked games, but I suggest a ban going from 1 day to 3 days decaying back down to 1 day after two weeks.

Also remove autofill, I rather wait an hour for a good quality ranked game where everyone try's to win and is playing positions they enjoy, than someone spamming ff 15 because they got autofilled adc or support and got smashed in lane. Which I do sympathize with, because I do that exact thing, because lets be honest the game isnt winnable if your bot hard loses, unless top mid and jungle hard win, which rarely happens. And there's no way autofill would work with the above system.

This gears the main reason people report to gameplay offensives like how it should be, instead of chat offenses which really doesn't make any sense to be the primary report reason. I can mute someone who's flaming and play the game out normally, I can't mute someone who's soft inting and forcing our team to be unable to win. A lot of the time two people just flame each other trying to bait one another into saying a trigger word so they can report the other person and get them chat restricted. That kind of stuff solves nothing and should not be happening. It actually does the exact opposite and creates a never ending cycle of toxicity.

The way I see it these changes would absolutely change ranked and the game for the better in every possible way. I am still open to other suggestions, and criticism of my ideas.

30 Comments

Tokishi711/2/2019, 2:39:24 AM8 votes

I agree with you. For some reason, despite you know, League of Legends being the largest Esport to have exist so far, Riot treats Ranked and Normals with the same manner. It is a SPORT when you play Ranked. At this point, fun is a second priority rather, winning the game takes priority. Some guy could tell me he's going to run a train on my mom, but as long as he's not inting, rage quitting, or playing poor, I couldn't care less unless he showed up to my house of course. I have no idea why it's been 10 years and players are able to hold teammates hostage in a Ranked game still. They give you the classic "post it on the boards, support can't do anything." Yeah, we've been posting this on the boards for a decade now and the best you did was enable an automated system that makes it 10x worse. Billion dollar company and they are only good for skins lol.

If a player makes a D ranking or below 5 games in a row, 24 hour ranked banned. If they come back and do the same, 7 day, 14, month. But if a player rage quits from a game, automatic 24 hour, then week, etc. This can easily be looked into by Riot support staff to see if it's internet or not. Riot needs to realize that if they want to treat League as a sport, it should make winning a priority over some dude saying to f*** off, you're the R word, i word, and whatever else they ban so easily for lol. Just mute unless they're inting or rage quit.

Literally saw a guy buy boots on nunu 26 games in a row and run it down mid with 0/25+ average and then he stopped and is now actively playing. That account should have been perma'd. But, call that guy an ass and Riot suddenly acts like you've just been responsible for the last 25 of those matches. Yeah okay bub, try playing the game please

Sałem11/2/2019, 8:35:40 AM5 votes

who the fuck downvoted this post ??? give me reasons why not implement this.

Mahoh11/2/2019, 4:27:45 AM3 votes

Ah ok. Yeah those guys are jerks.

ClaireRedfield11/2/2019, 3:17:28 AM3 votes

Cheers to that m8 you got my vote.

Smyrage11/2/2019, 3:56:48 PM2 votes

It would be a huge step forward if they introduced Overwatch's Ranked punishment system, where players can also get punished by playing sub-optimally. This means that e.g you take Lee Sin to mid, and you int hard with him, then the system treats your case harsher, because you picked something really below optimal for midlane, something which wasn't even supposed to be taken there and you caused others to lose. Of course in Overwatch you are only suspended from ranked, and depending on how you behave in the future, this can result in permanent ranked suspension.

Making masteries as a requirement for Ranked is a bit bullshit, because you can get e.g Lv7 Mastery in Blind Pick as well. We all know those Lv7 Katarina, Yasuo, Zed etc. mains, who despite put a lot of time into their champ, they are just horrible with them.

Overall the problem aren't those players, who just have a bad day and end up losing the lane. The real issue are those players, who intentionally play bad, take something really sub-optimal and so on. I played with Thresh jungle yesterday, and with Lee Sin mid today. I get it that it might work in Draft and Blind pick, where there are a lot of inexperienced midlaners and junglers, but seriously, in Ranked this won't be the case in most matches.

At least for now it's a relief that they take ranked reports more serious than others. At least I managed to get some people punished, whom I reported. It might sound nasty, but here are some tips how you can increase your chances, that the report will result in action against that player:

  • write something into the report, justify each points, provide examples
  • don't engage into any kind of negative conversation with those players, it will make your claims less justified
  • if somebody decides to troll, or feed just let them do it; if you don't say a word or anything offensive and you just play the game like you would, it increases your chances
  • regardless of the happenings, try your best, it will make the report much more believeable

Overall, just don't let them win by bringing the bad out of you. Let them do a clown fiesta and then just simply put a detailed report on them. It might not have the immediate effect, but sure it is satisfying when the client gives you a message, that they have taken action against player(s) you reported.

ZeropercentHero11/2/2019, 4:23:44 AM2 votes

I always believed if they added some more pre-req stuff it would help weed out a lot of people.

Minimum mastery score. M7 with 15 champs (or more).

I'm talking make it "hard" so that losing privileges in ranked like you suggest (and im all for a ranked ban, you int a game? no more ranked for the season. period) matters.

Make it hard to get into ranked to begin with and people will treat it with a "little" more respect. Make it easy to lose ranked privileges (like you say) will make people think twice about what they do while they're there.

Mahoh11/2/2019, 4:22:33 AM2 votes

what is inting?

OneMustFall11/4/2019, 12:37:11 AM1 votes

Seems reasonable. I would say throw AFKers in there as well. If you AFK in a game it's an automatic Ranked ban for an 1 hour and it escalates (1,2,24,72,etc) until you go a week without AFKing and then it drops down one level. I think inting is harder to quantify but if the system gets consistent reports it should be able to at least detect obvious low effort players and basically tell them "Go play some norms fella".

LostInTheDark0711/2/2019, 11:21:44 AM1 votes

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This gears the main reason people report to gameplay offensives like how it should be, instead of chat offenses which really doesn't make any sense to be the primary report reason. I can mute someone who's flaming and play the game out normally, I can't mute someone who's soft inting and forcing our team to be unable to win. A lot of the time two people just flame each other trying to bait one another into saying a trigger word so they can report the other person and get them chat restricted. That kind of stuff solves nothing and should not be happening. It actually does the exact opposite and creates a never ending cycle of toxicity.

The way I see it these changes would absolutely change ranked and the game for the better in every possible way. I am still open to other suggestions, and criticism of my ideas.

Speaking of people trying to trigger you, I had a game with a Brand he literally went from base into them dying on purpose me and my team tried to stay chill but the more he fed the more frustrated we got because we won game early rlly easy and now enemies started to have a comeback because of his deaths. We started to flame him I did it too and what he said at some point was: "I won t get banned for inting but you ll get for flaming me" and guess what I got chat restricted on my main acc for that and we also lost that game, minutes of my life cause of that subhuman and LP. He admitted in chat that he was inting by saying that I submitted a report and I checked his profile and he kept playing like nothing happened. RIOT refuses to ban them no matter what even when it s obvious and even more you get punished if you dare to flame them. Nice job RIOT this is how you ll keep your player base. Keep going this way.

People noticed that you get punished a lot faster recently for flaming and they exploit that system. I also had supports in my ranked games like Lux missing all skill shots right with enemies literally in front of them, I have no idea how they could and they said they were playing for fun. I contacted the support and they kept telling me that this new system is better than Tribunal. If you're telling me that a bot is better at finding inters or people who throw the game on purpose than humans, then RITO is delusional. That s why those cases with people buying only boots and losing 26+ matches in a row are still there ruining more games as we speak case this automated system is much better than the Tribunal. Right buddy, you're right. Also that support guy told me that flaming ain t good for the team and stuff, but someone playing "for fun" in a RANKED game wasting my time, making my laning phase miserable since ADC depends so much on supports cause of this meta and also LOSING LP and TIME is so much better.

Kovorix11/2/2019, 11:44:51 AM1 votes

I can't wait for all the players that blame bad players and matchmaking come running here and complain they got wrongfully (<- even a real word?) banned.

Akali Prime11/2/2019, 1:57:56 PM1 votes

ALSO only allow people to play champs they have mastery 4 or higher on. Also also I’d make you have to have a kda average before you can even step foot in ranked. Bad players don’t belong in ranked trying or not. It’s ranked for a reason I swear if they put all for ranked queue I swear to god ranked would be 100x better

Hailfire80511/2/2019, 4:39:26 PM1 votes

I mean i would love to see people who are trolling punished but there is a side effect of inting is hard to track because sometimes the enemy is just ahead and abusing that player to no end and its not that the player is trolling, say you lose to renekton top at level 6 and walking back to lane him and his jungler kill you before you reach the tower, you had no indication this would happen, but now you are terminally behind and he is going to keep flanking and killing you if you ever even try to approach the lane. how would it make this player feel if after that terrible experience they were then banned from playing ranked because their team flamed them and reported them all because he got abused by a snowball champ. the result would be people probably straight quiting the game

Edit: it also is hard to ever implement a system like this because players will dog pile and flame anyone who is losing typically. you arent trolling you lost a 1v1 or got chain ganked by jg but now your entire team is flaming you. overall you cant ask for punishment of these people just based on their stats and such

Jerry SeinfeId11/2/2019, 5:04:53 PM1 votes

so anyone that ain't masters shouldn't be allowed to play ranked? nty i don't need all of y'all in my normal games.

Terrorist581211/2/2019, 5:26:34 PM1 votes

What they should remove asap is a premade of top and mid being autofilled into the botlane ( bottom and support).