Or only 1 vote.
Premades of 3+ will control this system. If one of their members disconnects they will vote not to remake because it would count as an auto loss for them.
They will probably say that their teem mate will be back in time to not be behind but we don't know that and they don't know that.
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The vote should work as follows.
- A split vote is considered a yes.
- A premade vote is always considered as 1 vote.
Examples
- 2 solo vote yes and 3 premades vote no. Vote = 2-1 and match is remade.
- 2 solo vote yes and 1 solo votes no and 2 premades vote no. Vote = 2-2 and match is remade.
- 1 solo votes yes and 4 premades vote no. Vote = 1-1 and match is remade.
Or better, have no vote. If one player opts out, just remake. There'd be an issue if people don't understand the system and cause a penalized loss.
I doubt Riot will do this. They clearly favor premades over solo queue.
Premades really are the gift that keeps on giving.
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It's still a 4v5 even if someone is in a premade... This honestly just sounds like you're trying to punish people for being in a premade because you're spiteful about premades for some reason
Sometimes you do know that. If your teammate bug splatted or crashed during the load, it's pretty safe to say they'll make it back. If they called me to say their power went out I'd personally vote yes so as not to drag the rest of the team down with me.
I realize that's not what everyone will do, but you shouldn't punish people who will vote responsibly because of the people who will say no even if they know their teammate isn't coming back.
It's possible they do know that, but the way the system works there isn't any incentive to remake for an auto loss if a friend's connection goes out, but it would be just as toxic to leave the fate of 3+ people in the hands of some random player all because of an accident one person had. There isn't a real solution here to be honest.
You vote to make them lose LP. They have a say in it, period.
From what I read so far, Premades will gain a Loss if it's Their partner who DC.
Dude even if premades count as 1 vote they still have 100% controll if they chose too.
One of them will feed a kill and bye bye remake, ofc none of their buds will report them no they will report the solo player for everything under the sun eventhough he didnt do anything against the summoners code.
You know how this shit works
The answer given was that a pre-made team where one of it's members DC'd all suffer the penalty of a loss.
The main problem with this system
Fundamentally, this won't even be an issue. Premades will generally check in with eachother if they are having lag or disconnect issues, although this isn't my main point.
If something unbeknownst to them comes up and one disconnects, then it will still count as a loss. So what? Big deal. 4v5's were an automatic loss before so I don't see a big change in that aspect. **Things will go as usual and they will pretty much have to remake/surrender/surrender early regardless. ** For a great majority of 4v5 matches this will be a quality of life improvement for the victim team. The select few who have a person on their premade have their power cut unexpectedly, etc will see no change from before.
Think about it. What are the chances of a premade player disconnecting knowingly when LP is on the line for him and his friends? Almost zero, right?
What are the chances of one of these premade players disconnecting because of something unexpected? Close to none. And within that close to none chance, the 4v5 would already be considered a loss. See where I'm getting at?
I don't see a big issue here. It is a major improvement on most fronts and nothing will inherently get worse than it was before.
Honestly, if you have a better AFK solution to bring forward, then go right ahead. Otherwise, might as well keep quiet.
You are affecting the pre-made's fate as well so yes let them vote. The bigger question is why are they getting punished because someone they invited to the game disconnected. It not like they have some power over them.
Can't we wait for Riot to make a post about the feature and how it works before we assume that it's going to be abused? Riot has spent a lot of time saying a feature like this will be easy to exploit. I like to think that means they will put in proper precautions for 99% of scenarios that the system will be abused.
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I understand the sentiment but with premades going to get the loss as well they'd have no reason to say yes unless their buddy hard crashed as apposed to a bugsplat or something else minor.
The system as it is, adds risk to premades and encourages solo play for vital matches already. No need to make it worse.
I just lost my promos due to remake being so fucking rigged.
They said that if there was a remake because someone from your group was Dced, the whole group would have the loss.
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No, from what I read it wouldn't count as a loss for those in the group with them. But it might stop people in pre-made to let the vote go through to save their friend.
Also, on that note if they are on say: Curse Voice or team speak with the person and they are having client issues they can stall out until they get back. Which in that case would be fine.
Not sure how they will do it, but when actually looking at it, it will REALLY help out things for ALOT of people myself included. I HATE getting a loss due to ff@20 because someone never connected.
