I can't think of a single champion that wants Omnistone

nelogis·11/13/2019, 7:39:11 AM·23 votes·15,008 views

"Here are some random Keystones lmao have fun"

What champion in this game actually wants Electrolute / Phase Rush / Afterschock at the same time?

Every champ has an ideal Keystone, if that Keystone is Afterschock you just pick Afterschock. Even champions that have NO keystones to use just go for a general Keystone like Electrolute or Unsealed Spellbook. Even if you WANT to have 2 keystone at the same time you sure as hell don't want the other 10 too.

There isn't a single champ that wants this, not a single one. Around 150 champions in the game and the rune is designed for 0 of them.

I wouldn't even give a damn about this Keystone if it didn't remove an actual Keystone people use, just put this as the 4th Keystone in inspiration as a "for fun Keystone" because that's what it is.

Think about it, you leave Ezreal in the dirt, you remove a GP / Lucian / Sona / Draven / Fiora / Illaoi / Udyr / Nasus playstyle and for WHAT?!

For this piece of garbage nobody would want to use.

68 Comments

Stephenizgod11/13/2019, 9:22:47 AM21 votes

As if Klepto isn't just as bad... Those champs don't rely on Klepto, they abuse it. Plain and simple. All of those champs can use other keystones just as well, they just prefer Klepto because, again, they are abusing it. It basically takes Late game champs and brings their powerspikes into the Mid game, which is a huge freaking problem, specially in Top lane where they are either beyond oppressive or the most boring lanes you can do nothing about.

Omnistone seems like a really poor change to be fair, but Kleptomancy needs to leave the game for good.

Summoner SpeII11/13/2019, 7:46:18 AM10 votes

I would give up my klepto gp for all the klepto ranged abusers top lane

But yea omni looks troll

TheUrbanKitsune11/13/2019, 7:45:42 AM9 votes

Might be kinda cool on Gnar. But yeah, not looking super useful. Just wait until preseason though, I'm sure some high--elo Korean player will find a way to make it busted on someone.

Modl Ryden l11/13/2019, 5:51:20 PM4 votes

We don't know until we give it a chance.

That's how all new features play out.

  1. Feature is announced
  2. Boards shit on new feature
  3. Some kid in Korea big-brains a build out of 'shitty feature'
  4. Korean kid nets huge wins out of build
  5. Boards player hail troll build as meta
  6. Build needs to be nerfed because it wasn't actually shitty

Just saying, Glacial Augment + Ingenious hunter wasn't a thing until people saw it happen. And until they everyone said Glacial Augment was total garbage. But that never stopped Glacial Augment from finding success.

AlienPrimate11/13/2019, 8:57:13 PM3 votes

I will be trying it on Taric for top/jungle. He gets benefit from every keystone and there are still Taric mains who argue which keystone is the best on him. Here is the list of what I believe best to worst on him and why. For those who don't want to take the time to read through everything, Taric can very easily proc and make at least minimal use out of any keystone. Early game, the offensive scaling runes like dark harvest, electrocute, and arcane comet can still be useful but they will fall off late game. Every other keystone is actually pretty good and add something to his kit.

Guardian - as a support role, the extra shielding provides some safety before Taric's ult activates and the speed buff is nice to line up his stun

Press the attack - PTA has no scalings so it is equally effective on everyone depending on how well they can proc it. Taric's passive makes it extremely easy to proc and is good because his lack of offensive stats in a general build are great with its level scaling nature.

Aftershock - Taric scales on armor. What more is there to say?

Grasp of the undying - Grasp is great in a melee vs melee top lane matchup where he can consistently proc it to scale up his health for more late game presence as a tank.

Glacial Augment - Taric struggles sticking to people because he has a self stun when casting his abilities as well as being one of only 4 champions in the entire game with absolutely no mobility. This helps him stay on his target and its synergy with Righteous glory which is already a really good item on him is a bonus.

Fleet Footwork - The added sustain and speed buff is welcome in melee vs ranged matchups in a solo lane. Taric also procs it frequently with his doubled attack speed.

Kleptomancy - Just look up Taric's passive. (not that this matters for the current discussion though)

Unsealed Spellbook - there are other mains who use this and I can see the appeal but I just don't like it on anyone in general.

The rest of the keystones are a little less desirable but still have their use.

Phase Rush - Similar to glacial augment, this makes sticking to people easier and I actually think this is better as a keystone. The problem with it is that the rest of the sorcery choices are very lack luster for him. The same holds true for the other sorcery keystones.

Summon Aery - bonus damage and shielding from his kit while being in melee range for quick reset of it makes this pretty strong for later in the game once he has items. If this were in a different tree, I would consider using it.

Predator - this can make for interesting engages. Taric struggles engaging fights by himself but predator makes it possible.

Conqueror - Taric is great in a sustained fight so stacking it up can be very strong. However, Taric already beats most tanks because of his sustain so conqueror isn't all that appealing to him.

Lethal Tempo - Taric literally doubles his attack speed meaning he can get absurd attack speed with this rune. As a max attack speed test, I had 11.4 attacks per second on him. This isn't all that useful though because of his reliance on casting every 2 autos.

Hail of Blades - Same as lethal tempo

Electrocute - like PTA, Taric can proc it really easily but PTA is just better on him because electrocute relies on offensive stats to scale into late game

Dark harvest - Probably the worst keystone on Taric for similar reasons as electrocute

Arcane comet - My last choice keystone. Taric can reliably proc it, but like dark harvest and electrocute it still relies on offensive stats to scale into late game. The reason this is below dark harvest is because as stated already, there is nothing to be desired from the entire sorcery tree.

Soul Dealer11/13/2019, 7:59:32 AM2 votes

There is a champ that this could be good on: Jax. Jax benefits from more keystones then most champs so if you did a specific build tailored towards this rune it might be viable on him. As a Jax main I will be experimenting with this in norms to see if I can find a viable build.

ITZ ICY11/13/2019, 10:08:03 AM2 votes

Idk about Omnistone, but I'm really, immensely happy that riot decided to delete klepto.

Sałem11/13/2019, 7:05:25 PM1 votes

TF can use it and proc almost all of them and have a good use. has stun slow to prock aftershock electrocute etc. That is all I can think of tbh. Only few people attempted to test it on high level of play on pbe and some pros think that tf is the only one that can benefit most of it.

hazerddex11/13/2019, 7:43:07 PM1 votes

it's a lazy effort to replace kelpto they didn't have any idea's so they just put in a random button instead.

this doesn't help champions that actually need it either.

Ezreal is dead in season 10

Jaquie et Michel11/13/2019, 8:00:05 PM1 votes

Orianna

LightswornLance11/13/2019, 8:11:14 PM1 votes

Pantheon can use pretty much all those keystones, ryze kinda can too.

Sir Gusi11/13/2019, 8:31:24 PM1 votes

Ahri DrMundo Ivern TahmKench Teemo Annie are champs im going to try it on

Saezio11/14/2019, 12:11:13 AM1 votes

Maybe it's riot's way to detect inters and trolls. If you pick the rune you are banned.

./wishfullthinkingintensifies

thaBeast11/14/2019, 12:24:00 AM1 votes

i think its good on champs that have lots of viable key stones or a champ that doesnt have any good key stone but i can't think of any rn

Metal Janna11/14/2019, 1:42:56 AM1 votes

What champion in this game actually wants Electrolute / Phase Rush / Afterschock at the same time?

Orianna.

Hi im 1211/14/2019, 1:59:26 AM1 votes

seems like something that only junglers will use, seems good on warwick tho

preternatural11/14/2019, 11:25:10 AM1 votes

um i can actually think of some wild shit you can do on ekko with omnistone lol.

Akali Prime11/14/2019, 9:40:10 PM1 votes

Senna maybe? since shes an adc/supp hybrid, can cast on allies, has ap scalings, etc.

Minimac200011/14/2019, 9:56:18 PM1 votes

You can't get aftershock or predator from it but yeah, basically noone

Makarakarn11/14/2019, 10:31:53 PM1 votes

I mean I never really liked Klepto, but I agree this rune is pretty pointless.

BLIGHTBRINGER11/13/2019, 2:24:12 PM1 votes

I agree with your point however after giving a deep thought I started to think that maybe someone like Fiora/Camille could use it.

Because Currently both Fiora and Camille abuse Kleptomancy/Grasp of the Undying/Conqueror/Press the Attack

There are certain Champs who can be good with this who can always stay on top of their targets.

But at the end of the day this Rune is just pointless. They couldn't think of any Rune Concepts at that time that could replace Kleptomancy and remain healthy without causing another game impacting meta.

Posui Gart11/13/2019, 2:51:47 PM1 votes

Garen is ok with anything, now that his E is on-hit and scales with AS Urgot can also use most of them fine. Sure, he would be bad at using Hail of blades/Lethal tempo, but not to the point of being useless with them Perhaps some other melee AA champions can use that

Think about it, you leave Ezreal in the dirt, you remove a GP / Lucian / Sona / Draven / Fiora / Illaoi / Udyr / Nasus playstyle and for WHAT?! For this piece of garbage nobody would want to use.

Its not "ok here is an interesting rune, what should we remove to put it in?" Its "klepto must be removed, what should we put in instead so that inspiration is not left with 2 keystones" Because klepto is a mistake and should have never existed. And Ezreal deserves to be in dirt for some time. A safe, long-range, mobile ADC should be weak in some other point

Sirsir11/13/2019, 2:55:19 PM1 votes

Memestone

It will be used by people who aren't really trying, show up in a few highlight videos where it gave an amazing combo, and inevitably break the game when a pro finds a champ that can actually use almost ALL the keystones well and is suddenly a nightmare out of nowhere (Urgot?)

NaughtyWord11/13/2019, 4:38:09 PM1 votes

I think a few hybrid champs might make use of it. I mean champions that can build both AP and AD reliably, maybe KogMaw?

Personally, I think it should be similar to unsealed spellbook, where you can change what keystone you have on the go depending on the game situation. Even then, I don't see it being widely used.

Shynana11/13/2019, 4:55:59 PM1 votes

man i can see a future buff later on being, patch 10.3 Omnistone grants additional effects on selected rune. Aftershock, gain a shield according to 3% of your max health Aery, Hitting an enemy champion grants you or closes ally a shield based on damage of aery. Grasp, gain 15 hp Press of the Attack, When procs, no longer does scaling damage. (instead of 8% will be 12% when proc at any point of the game). Electrocute, when proc deal damage to other enemy champions within a 200 range radius, only 25% of the damage will be done to other champions based on the damage that was proc of the first target. Phase rush, 1 ability or basic attack will proc phase rush. Fleet, movement speed duration doubled, critical strikes double the healing effectiveness. Predator, when an ability would be used to deal predator damage, gain movement speed to half that amount for 1.5 seconds. Glacial, single target abilites will apply glacial as if you auto an enemy champion Leathal Tempo, 110% attackspeed instead of the scaling attackspeed at any given point of game. Hail of blades, in a single auto will do damage as if it was 3 auto attack. (you get 3 hail of blades proc) Melee champions - 1 auto damage done, 2 and 3 damage reduced by 60% range 1 auto damage done, 2 and 3 reduced by 80% Guardian - can proc on yourself, but only shielding of that of 25%, and the movment speed haste 10% of it.

TheBigBoyMcCoy11/13/2019, 6:42:45 PM1 votes

Quinn would dominate with this keystone. It's been discussed multiple times that this would be very beneficial to her.