Singed current state and what it will be like after the tank update
So i have been playing singed for a while now and this update is truly terrifying for singed mains. At the moment the only viable singed builds are tank and utility. The busier ROA, rylais, liandrys build is gone because you can't survive a team fight long enough to make these items worth it. The mid game is what the game is all about right now and if you don't have a RG and some resistances you can't do your job as initiating without resistances.
You may ask "Why is it a problem if tank singed is still viable?" "why not just build these new tank items and get more resistances early?" The short answer to this IMO is that the current tank items are giving lots of HP. You want tons of HP to get more use out of your ultimate bonus resistances. With new items giving less hp its going to be an indirect nerf to his ultimate. The team fight will be hit somewhat by this but most importantly his split push later into the game is going to be destroyed completely.
Right now i usually build a Righteous Glory and boots and try and snowball other lanes as much as possible. Bot lane is so important right now because of the current meta of mid game ADCs and the first tower bonus gold. The snowball that comes from a winning bot lane can take over a game.
If i fail to get my bot lane an advantage early game i feel as if i am forced to split push the rest of the game. Now split pushing after this update will not be possible. It doesn't matter who the enemy top laner is they will be able to beat singed at split pushing with the adaptive helm item. I need a liandrys right now to be able to contest objectives 1v1 against tanks and i can't pick up this item until at least the 3-4th item in my build. Once ANYONE picks up this item singed no longer does damage. Removing 15% of his Q damage is the hardest hit i can think of. A poppy will be able to defend her tower with ease because i am not a threat. ATM i can threaten a tower because zz'rot will do the damage to it and i can defend it with some damage from liandrys. Once anyone buys this adaptive helm item, i can no longer defend the portal and be an actual threat to objectives. Most tanks come with % hp damage and will have no problem fighting me with 15% DOT reduction. So not only will i not be able to pressure objects, i won't even be able to survive in a split push scenario.
The experimental banshees will also hurt teamfight singed. Right now i get kited by bork adcs when i try to initiate so i go for the mid laners. If the mid laner has the new banshees then i simply cannot cc them and waste RG to get an active cd off the mid laner that is shorter than my RG cooldown. The current banshees doesn't proc with his W so you have to use his fling to get the active off them.
These are just my thoughts. I'm a mid elo singed player that doesn't want to see his champion get dumpstered with this update. Every Patch seems like an indirect hit to singed and most of the popular singed mains are leaving him. The 2 best singed players i know (ankan, minishcap) are struggling with this as well. Minishcap all but disappeared because he simply isn't enjoying playing the tank singed we are forced to play. Ankan is a utility singed player who i believe will never give up on the champion. He has a rather creative build he's been using for a while with stoneborn, rylais, ardent. The reason i bring this is up is because the only high elo singed main (that i know of) that is finding success is someone who is playing a team fight/supportive build. That is not the singed i want to be playing. He had the most unique play style in the entire game and i think riot is killing it off. I wasn't able to comment on the thread (https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/8g2H4vjy-midseason-durability-feedback)so I thought i would try and get them to notice singed here. This could be an over reaction but i think I was fair with what was said.
TL/DR
- tank singed is the only playable singed atm
- Singed late game is poor and you are forced to splitpush in most scenarios.
- Adaptive helm will make split pushing on singed impossible
- Singed players are ditching this champion because it simply does not work like it used to. The only high elo singed main finding success has a crazy teamfight/support build.
- I just don't want this champion to be forgotten about again with this update and be the victim of indirect nerfs. Less hp on items is always a nerf because his bonus resistances from his ult.
- Why would anyone pick singed when he is being forced to play as an initiating tank when something like maokai exists.
- If the banshees on the PBE gets through it is a huge hit to singed.
What do you guys think? Do i have the wrong idea of singed in my had or am i just over reacting before these changes even take place? All feedback is appreciated. Thanks.
