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Katarina revert

Asylum Absconder·3/10/2018, 4:25:56 PM·10 votes·6,059 views

Hello summoners . I would like to share with you my opinion about Katarina's state and why i would prefer for katarina to be reverted . I believe that they have some serious issues.

                                       1)In my opinion her spells have extra delay that is too annoying. Her E ,,and especially the time it takes for the dagger (w,q) 
                                                   to reach the ground. That contradicts with the idea of an assasin.  (the delay thing is an issue with Leblanc too,but they will 
                                                    revert it soon)

                                           2)Katarina's combos are really predictable, and too easy to dodge if the enemy know how she works. 
                                                I believe every Katarina main will understand what i am talking about.  For example in lane:,,her most used combo is  e  w q r. 
                                                 which  can be dodged quite easily: When she shunpo on the enemy,the enemy can run at the opposite direction where she 
                                                teleports at,and by the time her w reaches the ground,the enemy will be far away from it. Also when she uses q , you just 
                                                have to not go at the place,where the dagger has fallen.(that means you have to run towards Katarina).  Also if you consider 
                                               that many champions have cc's in their kits,and dashes,blinks,etc,    That makes her situation even worse,by giving far more 
                                              time,for enemies to react
                                                As a Katarina main i have never lost to the laning phase against a Katarina.
                                       
                                          3)Her strength,really really depends on gunblade. And thats the reason why she stays at the spot she is in .

                                          4)Some times Katarina is too frustrating for the person who plays her.    The delay she has with her burst and the easily dodged
                                            daggers,,, gives you the feeling of fear to burst someone  and  you consider a lot before making your move, Also in many cases 
                                            you are   unable to punish a mistake or for example an overextended enemy ,,,,, which makes you a no asasin at all.

((Something more personal:)As a Katarina main,since season 3, i really loved the vibe Katarina was giving,before the rework. Also screw tank meta,really:D)

i i hope this post gets some responses so you can share your opinion too , about this matter .Thank you for reading and have nice day/night :)

22 Comments

Vampire Diaries3/10/2018, 11:29:33 PM4 votes

New kat is way more mobile and better as a champ but old kat was more fun to play she was the meaning of the assassin.i agree that new kat has annoying delys and it should be reverted i mean lb and rengo get revert bcs the dely ruined them then why mot kat too? She doesnt deserve dely old kat had enough weaknessses like lanning phase or of you e in and get ya ult canceled you are so dead it was fair enough.i like new kat but old was more fun pls bring her back

ModKnightsKemplar3/10/2018, 4:58:07 PM3 votes

Old Kata was super unfair to the person playing against her.

The new katarina is in a much healthier spot in the game, and actually has been quite strong in recent weeks (think she fell a bit 8.5, I use op.gg to check). All your points basically say "she's harder to play now," and that's definitely true, but if she were too hard to play, then she wouldn't have been near the top of the mid tier list the last couple of patches.

They are definitely rooting out some of the easier champs to play with reworks; I'm still trying to get back on the horse with my main, Swain, but I have to acknowledge that he's much better for the game now. Very unlikely to rework her at this point, I'd say, especially since it's worked out so well. It's an unfortunate side effect to lose a favorite champ, but they're gonna keep doing it to make the game better.

VoraciousX4/2/2018, 5:45:38 AM2 votes

The problem is old Kat would not make it in higher elos. She wasn't good before her rework at all. She had her fun moments, but she was a noob stomper and terrible where CC was involved(I don't play ranked but I remember this being a very big topic of discussion). New Katarina gave her plenty of outplay potential while still making her feel like an assassin(at least until late game where an ADC right clicks you in the 1.25 seconds it takes for your W to drop on you while you're ulting them). I think she could use a faster drop time on her daggers, at least later in the game, but overall this rework is better both for players of Katarina and her opponents. Btw Flyerbek found a way to deal with tank meta by not getting gunblade until later. Rush rylai's into liandry's and then gunblade later on, and you have more HP, more damage to tanks, and can still kill squishies. It takes some getting used to not having the healing from gunblade early but it's really good for getting quick leads on your laner(Rylai's is far cheaper than gunblade making you get your items quicker) while also giving you some extra health and utility(allows you to slow your opponents making it harder to get away from daggers). At least I've been using it for tank meta. He may have been just using it for clickbait but it works really well.

LL miteorlish2k45/8/2018, 2:18:56 PM2 votes

Hi i know i am very late fot the comment but i think that old kata was more funny and enjoyable. Now she is slow and that is very important for assassin and i made a board too so you can visit it if you want. I asked riot to revert tha old Karatina and one of te player supports said that he will do everything to revert it her back just like Leblanc and Rengar. Link for my board - https://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/EEcawAuI-letos-revert-the-old-and-fast-katarina-who-could-dash-on-a-wars?comment=0004![summoner 4](https://raw.communitydragon.org/latest/plugins/rcp-be-lol-game-data/global/default/data/spells/icons2d/summoner_flash.png)

Leathyl5/12/2018, 8:33:31 AM2 votes

I am not exaggerating when I say that I quit League of Legends when they reworked Katarina. Played for 4-5 years, quit for 3 solely because of the rework. In my personal opinion, they took the super unforgiving glass cannon champion away and put in a clunkier, easier champ to play with a significantly lower skill cap and a much lower damage output.

Old Katarina has her flaws but that’s what made her a great champion. She was extremely succeptable to CC and 100% reliant on getting at least an assist in team fights. If not, you were obliviated. That to me is the definition of glass cannon.

New Katarina is just a slow, predictable champion that only does well if she snowballs. The removal of ward jumping completely took away all of her sneakiness and assassin qualities. Now she’s just a mage, and not a very great one.

I wrote a complaint to Riot the moment I played new Katarina. I was so excited when I heard they were thinking of reverting and I really hope it makes it to live servers.

For all the old Katarina mains out there, we know that old Kat was superior. To be brutally honest, the people that think new Katarina is better, we’re probably poor performers at old Kat.

Please please please Rito, bring her back. <3

Lotus mortal5/28/2018, 7:43:08 PM2 votes

PLs old kataaa

DereC43/17/2018, 1:17:59 AM1 votes

I personally like(d) the current Katarina , I got her in this state and had S ranks and stuff. She was really fun and was a good boost to leveling. It was when I leveled up high enough that I stopped playing her after I discovered Talon

KataReky4/18/2018, 3:56:45 PM1 votes

If Kat is so easy to predict and dodge then how has so many Kat players hit high ranks. Besides you dont need to jump to dagger after they spawn you can Q E behind instantly and move to dagger. https://youtu.be/B49wm7Cw9vI you can do plays like this with the new Kat now she is just harder to play.

Aptest5/12/2018, 9:15:31 AM1 votes

There are 2 things which i disliked about _ old katarina_:

The first is, that she was very powerful if opponents lacks instant, reliable and easy to apply hard cc, and very weak if they had such cc. This made it so one of her main mechanics was "wait until soraka uses her silence".

What I dislike in this aspect of her old kit is, that a 3rd, 4th or 5th pick would have to make sure they are bringing some cc to the table. The punish of a katarina being picked 5th into the opposing solo lane, if you do not have X amount of "unfun skills" (instant, easy to apply non skill-shot hard CC with good duration) was great enough that she'd pinch the draft in a real way, not by being herself picked, but by being a possible pick from the opposing team.

A second thing that I disliked about her is, that killing a single champion with her combo would also set-up the next champion to be killed, due to them being hit by some of her AOE. That means that once a champion was being close to die in a team fight, could result in a complete wipe.

I dislike this, because it reduces the number of viable "engage on this" targets that a proactive engager on the other team has. Basically it means, you have to catch the katarina, and engaging on the ADC or squishy top laner will very probably be a big mistake.

Vaylin3/17/2018, 1:13:44 AM1 votes

I wonder how many former kat mains completely ditched the champ after the rework. She was the first and only champ I played when I started, then they changed her. Now I just have no interest in playing her anymore. Sad but oh well, there's a ton of other champs to play.

yeulx3/10/2018, 4:39:22 PM1 votes

I love and hate the new katarina i liked it when i didnt have to think all that much with the old kat.. but now with the new kat you have to do that... tho i dislike how her passive and daggers are set up...

BeatzBoyFTW3/10/2018, 4:40:11 PM1 votes

So you want to go back to the old "QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQWER pentakill" Katarina kit...?

Taliyah Rocks3/10/2018, 4:57:41 PM1 votes

I really hate her gunblade powerspike, she literally gets 100% Value from it since she scales with both AD and AP. Even Akali, one of gunblade core user, doesn't get as much value out of it since her AD scalings got nerfed.

I really don't think she should be touched for as long as that huge powerspike persists. Her kit is predictable, but her enemies need that reaction time because of how fast she can snowball as soon as she gets a slight lead.

7amad3/13/2018, 12:26:41 PM1 votes

I think she should just loose the dagger mechanic its too clunky to use and annoying to face; her Q should be a skill shot that creates the same effect of bouncing blades after it connects, and/or deal less damage after every target hit.

Zed genius3/10/2018, 4:33:54 PM1 votes

I miss the old kat, I would like to play her a few games but I'm pretty sure I like this version the most