Boards›Gameplay

@RIOT, Karma does not need any changes! Please hear the Karma mains!

aquaticwonder·5/15/2015, 9:12:33 PM·2 votes·938 views

I love Karma. She is my favorite champion in League and honestly it's pretty rare that I'm not playing her in ranked or normals. This game is fun for me because of her.

Here is the current changes on the PBE for her

I was very worried when I heard she was getting changes - mostly because she is very balanced atm imo. There are no threads clamoring for her to be buffed or nerfed. The extra damage removal from RW and the damage removal from RE is worrisome, as she now relies even more heavily on Q's for damage (since there are no changes to Q - this is seen as a nerf in my eyes).

The initial changes for her stated that her W would now work with jungle creeps - this has since been removed. Sadly, this was the only change I was looking forward to, as it opened the door for jungle Karma, which I discussed more in a previous thread.

The passive buff is nice, but not needed at all. CDR is important for we Karma's and our ult is usually on a 20-24~ second CD late game. Gathering Fire works just fine late game. I don't feel as though I need to be using my Mantra more.

My question to Riot is: Why do you feel the need to hurt solo lane Karma at the expense of support Karma? Why change her at all? More experienced Karma players prefer to play her in solo lanes, while non-dedicated Karma players typically choose her as a support? Why attempt to shoehorn her into the support role? After her rework, it was stated by you that your goal was to preserve her utility mage identity - similiar to Lux and Orianna. These changes do NOT do that! They take away a percentage of her damage AND waveclear.

My frustration continues to grow, as there are few of us Karma mains and we can only say so much as our champion gets dramatically changed. I feel so ignored because our champion does not have a large playerbase.

tl;dr Why take two sources of damage for her for no reason? Why hurt solo lane Karma? Why not keep the jungle changes? Why are we changing her in the first place?

Karma item 3070

6 Comments

Knight SoIaire 5/15/2015, 9:36:09 PM1 votes

please hear riven mains please hear katarina mains please hear akali mains please hear fizz mains please hear zed mains

and the list can go on into the infinity the fact is that none main likes this stuff but its important if riot would change vi i would cry too, but its a fact that there is something that needs changing for the sake of the champion, and we wont get any ensurance changes will be good

CloaknDagger2225/15/2015, 9:43:52 PM1 votes

I don't play Karma nor am I interested in doing so, but OP has valid points and Riot should not be nerfing other ways to play Karma just to raise her appeal as support.

Fix it Riot.

Mega Annie X5/15/2015, 10:12:33 PM1 votes

Completely remake her. New Karma mains can feel the utter disrespect and horror that old karma mains felt.

Make sure you change every aspect of her kit.

Wickedfates5/15/2015, 10:53:02 PM1 votes

Sona

but... i <3 her... and i will prob play her in team builder till the day someone doesn't pick me for support

because i think she is fun