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Let Darius Crit with decimate

Gegsh··3 votes·1,942 views

IF 55% win rate kayle can crit with her fire waves, why can't 47% win rate Darius crit with decimate? BTW I am not talking about his auto attack I am talking about the spin move DECIMATE. This buff would only help a Darius with the balls to build crit and not the standard black cleaver/trinity build.

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xDogMeatx3 votes

your right the game is pretty broken in terms of damage i mean it cant hurt adding more damage to it. not adding in the noxian might passive that could amplify the damage pretty much a uncounterable amount when crit activates.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

it doesnt already? kinda suprised since its an empowered auto attack, or is it not?

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Moody P2 votes

he's talking about his Q

Critmaster Garen1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Qri9xAV2,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-04-08T10:44:40.497+0000)

he's talking about his Q

oh shit, never mind then.

he would have the same problem as garen though. apart from infinity edge, what source of crit does he have that doesnt end up in a squishy troll build?

we need atmas impaler back for that to work again.

and to be fair this might be selfish and completely biased, but i want the crit scaling on garens abilities be a unique thing for him as a juggernaut. because if they DO end up removing villainy, like some rioters already discussed, then i want them to make him the "crit juggernaut" instead and give him something like yasuos double crit passive.

so he can pull off

item 3031 item 3071 item 3053 item 1001

as an actual viable build. i can dream.

Moody P1 votes

Just give his E an innate crit possibility then since he doesn't need even more Q burst imo

Critmaster Garen1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Qri9xAV2,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-08T11:03:33.081+0000)

Just give his E an innate crit possibility then since he doesn't need even more Q burst imo

id say something like, upon ranking his r, his w passive also grants critical strike chance. would just straight up be 50% crit when its fully stacked. gating it with his ultimate would also solve the low crit % problem (extremely lucky singlular crits at lvl 1 winning lane phase) that tryndamere has.

change his q around a little, so its damage doesnt crit directly but gains an additional damage scaling based on his current crit chance and crit damage (like xayahs e used to work). that would make the ability less volatile towards dealing huge hits when it it crits, and too little damage when it doesnt (hello gangplank).

change villainy to a mark that he can freely chose (on a cooldown or on the fountain) like kindred. his ult doesnt deal true damage anymore, but critical strikes against the villain (spins and auto attacks) still deal additonal 1% max health true damage. mechanically his q should still be able to crit, just for the application of the 1% true damage.

alternatively, his q could just apply the mark for a limited time. (though that would be dangerously close to vayne territory in lack of counterplay).

add an attack speed scaling to his e, that grants him extra spins for building enough bonus attack speed, so item 3046 could be a viable item on him.

kingDeDeDarius1 votes

I still think the healthiest and most unique type change they could give Darius is a stacking damage and movespeed debuff that doubles or triples at five stacks. The point would be to make him the true tough as nails, grow stronger the longer the fight, crippling war of attrition type champ that destroys all goes that don't properly cc, kite, or dodge his outer Q. Essentially, the damage and slow debuff per stack would be trivial until he reached 5 stacks, but this would also give him nice utility for his team so that he isn't merely a slow moving damage threat that doesnt even make a great meatshield due to the excessive BPS in this game

Gegsh1 votes

hell no! atleast my buff idea would only help those darius that build crit items. your buff would be too much of a buff to the standard darius build

The thigh guy1 votes

Sure. The game is already filled with a shit storm of damage. Why not just make it worse. -.-

Alzon1 votes

Adding damage to juggernauts is all Riot can do to them, short of a full rework. Look at Mundo. Look at Trundle. Look at Nasus. Then look at Yorick and how his supposed QoL buffs broke him. Adding straight damage just increases the damage by a marginal amount. Adding utility multiplies the effectiveness of already-high damage by making it more reliable, which goes against the juggernaut design philosophy of “high defenses with situationally high damage due to low target access”.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Adding damage to juggernauts is all Riot can do to them, short of a full rework. Look at Mundo. Look at Trundle. Look at Nasus. Then look at Yorick and how his supposed QoL buffs broke him. Adding straight damage just increases the damage by a marginal amount. Adding utility multiplies the effectiveness of already-high damage by making it more reliable, which goes against the juggernaut design philosophy of “high defenses with situationally high damage due to low target access”.

you can still have some level of selfish utility on a juggernaut.

the addition of the mini fiora w to the courage active was a better and more useful buff to garen than the whole villain mechanic. it also added a lot more skill expression to garens kit.

especially his w was lacking something like that.

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