Dear riot: Please fire your balance team

Ominarous·1/19/2018, 9:07:07 PM·16 votes·1,065 views

At this point, I'm not convinced you even have one. I'm pretty sure you're throwing darts at a dart board to decide what is going to be changed, then subsequently rolling dice to decide how hard they're buffed and nerfed, etc.

Aftershock is already OP, at 20+30% bonus armor/mr. Beginning with 8.2, it is getting a BUFF, to become 85-175 flat armor/mr, reducing it's base damage and health ratio slightly, while adding a small (10% and 15% respectively) ad and ap ratio to it. First off, a full tank mastery doesn't need damage ratios from AD and AP, let's get that out of the ay right there.

Second, let's take a look at the defensive stats, which are procced on any cc whatsoever. On many bruisers, it is currently largely unusable, for obvious reasons (It's percent armor and mr). After 8.2 hits, any self respecting bruiser with one small cc like xin zhao third q, for instance, can build full damage and still ahve 250 armor/mr for 3 full seconds, then have their xin zhao ulti for several seconds after that. Yikes.

The real problem is when you start to look at non-tank and even non-bruiser roles. When you have 175 FLAT armor and mr flying around on any cc, you risk giving a late game tristana 175 flat armor and magic resist in addition to what they may have built added to their base stats. Tristana R, Vayne E, Varus R, Draven E, Ashe R, Cait W, etc. all proc aftershock.

That would be some really crappy stuff to see, but let's think about what else procs aftershock....

Veigar E, Sydnra E, Orianna R, Aurelion sol Q/R, Azir R, Lux Q ... We'll leave it at that, but we could come up with more.

Who here is excited for the 250 armor, 1500 ap veigar walking around... No one.

But back to what they were really intending to work on... the base damage of aftershock is being nerfed by 20 at all levels, along with 0.5% max health damage taken away from aftershock as well. Which means, after resistances, aftershock is going to hit ADC's (if they're still in range for the explosion, even) for about 20 less damage early in the game. Yet, if the aftershock-user is attacked even twice, which is reasonable in fights while running away from some cc support that you don't want on your face (because you're not going to attack the enemy adc when you have a leona slapping you silly, you're goign to attack move away), you are going to deal much more than 30 less damage to the aftershock-user.

This means that although the damage is nerfed, the amount of damage you deal will be further nerfed.

Aftershock is already broken. Please, for the love of all that is holy, stop :)

7 Comments

Solicitude1/19/2018, 9:43:06 PM4 votes

But in a way these kinds of posts are really funny. You see people crying on how tanks are so strong, tanking infinite damage and dealing more damage than the DPS. Then you get other people crying how weak tanks are and how strong are ADCs'. Then someone cries how OP assassins are because he got one shot as an ADC by a late game Zed. But the assassins come here crying that they have no damage and cant do anything. Then there are the people crying on how strong mages are and how they can one shot everything that moves. And then you had THIS GUY who was crying because Zilean's Q, his only damage ability, was hitting like a truck when he was oh so squishy.

You see? In a way these posts are really funny! [slayer-jinx-wink]

Kaìju1/19/2018, 9:35:07 PM3 votes

This is gonna get locked in a few minutes. Before then I want you to know that you're a gnat, and posts like this are a waste of time. The balance team is bad from the boards point if view. But at the end of the day if you have such great ideas you go to school, get hired, and fix the game yourself if you have all the answers.

HalcyonDweller1/19/2018, 10:06:11 PM2 votes

Dear poster: please fire your rhetoric team

When you attack people at the same time as raising your concerns about balance issues, you make your entire post a hell of a lot less persuasive. If you want the issues to be read and addressed, then you would be better served by making friendly, well-thought-out posts explaining what you are frustrated about and why you feel it is a problem.

Balance in this game is absolutely worth raising hell about. But when you turn away from balance just to demand that Riot hurt their employees' livelihoods you just look like a spoiled entitled rude person.

MMMMM SQUIDWARD2/12/2018, 1:17:00 AM1 votes

I think riots balance team is composed of bronze players and people who get lunch, they bring them into the room and each patch update is whatever suggestion was made. Or they should just stop making champions because riot feels the need to give every new champion a gimmick thats makes them unique which turns that champion into being utter bull shit. Can we just get hashinshin on the balance team