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Flaming Tips!!? Ranked Help

rtbf75043601·5/8/2017, 10:52:27 PM·1 votes·321 views

My elo is cursed with people that do not understand map positioning, ult locations, and missed skill shots. I am mid Bronze at the moment and am having a very hard time climbing out. I just played a game as Warwick, I went 25/10/17 and every time I tried to get an objective my team would always run away for no reason. I would manage to kill 2-3 of them but since I was a tank with 4000 HP and no teammates to follow up I'd lose the fight and then while I was dead they'd push harder. I tried asking for teammates to help me but they'd say something like "Maybe if you could stop going in you'd stop dying" but I'd say I'm the tank my job is to initiate and none of you follow up. They'd respond "shut up" and then I'd flame them in cap's lock. I just do not know how to deal with these damn people. I tried to split push this game to victory, but I kept getting caught since the other team grouped up like I wished my team would. I'm asking for tips for my gameplay. I am a jungle main, I like big bruiser champs like ww, vi, xin, shyv, but I also like to play graves and shaco. My secondary is ADC and I'm pretty decent at it but truly I can play any position. I'm looking for tips on game roles, getting teammate attention and help, and overall game strategy against teams that group up a lot. Thank you all in advanced!

-Gards5FTW (Stuck in elo Hell)

3 Comments

HalcyonDweller5/8/2017, 11:18:30 PM2 votes

The way to get your team to do what you want to do is to work hard at earning their respect from the start of the game. Whenever anybody does well, takes a tower, zones an enemy out of lane, a gank goes well, etc... you can compliment them, it oculd be something as small as "gj" but this will start building the blocks you can stand on to try to tell them to do stuff.

If you are fed / doing well AND you have been building up their confidence and respect with compliments, then when you ask them to help you they are more likely to listen because they haven't already tossed your name into the pile of "assholes I don't want to listen to."

If you aren't the person carrying the team, then you need to play around that person. That means just moving with them around the map after mid-game starts. You can use the basic ping without identifying yourself, and try pinging objectives for the team to group around. Wait for the carrying player to move towards it and then go with them.

EDIT: where you went wrong is when you accused them of not following up. You might be right, but that won't matter to them, all they see is you laying blame on them. Don't fall into that trap, or stoop to their level. Try saying something similar to get your point across without laying any blame on anyone else. Something like, "I'm the tank and the best character on our team to start fights. Can we use a signal to indicate when it's time to fight so I know when everyone is ready for me to go in?"

By talking in the future tense you shift the discussion away from a blame-argument and into a decision about the future; IE: How to solve the problem.

k wìx5/8/2017, 11:26:53 PM2 votes

Gold/Plat/Diamond support main with years of experience here, i'll offer a few quick tips for getting started in ranked:

1.) Don't count on winning often. Don't make winning your focus - instead, focus on how well YOU did that game, and count that as your win. Know that one or two feeding or bad players can and will lose the game for you, and it will happen. Do not rage at them, it's not an easy game to play for many. Mistakes will be made.

2.) Be aware of how many kills and deaths everyone has. If they have a lot of deaths, they can't do as much, and will contribute less until late game. Be careful around helping these players, you might get yourself killed in the process, and lose your lead. Always try to see who has the most kills on the enemy team, and be mindful of that player -because he's the biggest threat. I don't care if its the support, if someone has a lot of kills, they are dangerous.

3.) Focus on dying less. 5 or less deaths per game is a great goal to strive for. This is one of the most important things you can do to ensure your team wins. By not dying, you remain strong, and can affect the games outcome as much as possible.

4.) I'd caution you against split pushing unless your ahead, I feel like this loses more games than it wins in the lower elo. If you are not with your team and they get obliterated, you are definitely part of the reason why, and if they get an inhib off of that victory, you are definitely causing a loss for yourself, I don't care what objectives your getting.

Thats about all i got time for right now - goodluck!

rtbf750436015/9/2017, 1:14:58 AM1 votes

Thanks guys, I guess I didn't think to talk about future fights rather than previous mistakes. One thing I notice about my Jungle play is my timing for ganks. I usually get level 3 and immediatly try to help surrounding lanes, I have a habit of clearing all 3 camps on the one side before a gank. I notice from youtubers I watch that higher elo players will stop clearing a camp to go help a lane. I notice a lane dies and then I'm too late to help the player and instead I just kill the player that killed my teammate. That specific game, the enemy Vayne was fed and everyone else was decently tanky. The Vayne built crit and lifesteal. Is there any specific items I could buy to counter lifesteal? I would be able to ult the vayne and get her down to 10% but then my ult would be up and she'd immediately use her lifesteal to heal up and destroy me. I specifically built cinderhulk -> titanic -> Deadman's -> Blade of RK -> Randuins. She started to destroy me about the time I finished the Blade and I thought the Randuins would help, but I must have gone wrong with both of those items after deadmans. Build path is definitely something I need to work on as well!