Can we swap Janna's and Sona's strength for once

Uva9x6gDhC·10/28/2015, 2:00:33 AM·6 votes·1,782 views

Make Janna trash tier and Sona god tier?

24 Comments

1000angrybees10/28/2015, 2:27:55 AM7 votes

While I don't want Janna to be bad, as I want all supports to be justifiably viable, it's obvious that people do NOT understand why Sona is much less viable than other supports.

Other supports:

  • have hard cc on basic abilities
  • have higher base damage, sometimes even scalings
  • better utility (better heals, speed boosts, engage, disengage, etc.)
  • better base stats, more movement speed, better all around survivability
  • ranged supports generally have safer poke (most of sona's poke is her passive, lets be real)
  • Ults are either higher damage/scaling, have lower CD's or both
  • Other supports don't rely as heavily on AP items and gold to be effective

not to mention her OWN problems in her kit (shield duration, w cost, E ranks, etc.)

Shonjl10/28/2015, 2:33:19 AM4 votes

The thing is Janna isn't overbearing. Sona when she is good is. I have never felt threatened by Janna, she made it very hard to engage and punished you for doing it wrong, but if you knew how to go about it were rewarded. Sona on the other hand was too much and was BS half the time dealing with her. She had easymode poke that at low levels hurts a lot for literally no risk at all, a free MS boost to run away, and a group heal, sure she is very easy to kill if you do jump on her, but goodluck doing it when she can do all the above.

Janna at the end of the day requires skill to be good and can be countered. Sona is too easy to play and is too overbearing to play against if she has good numbers behind her. I would rather deal with Thresh over her and that is saying something.

Enosetc10/28/2015, 2:01:57 AM4 votes

no one enjoyed playing vs sona when she was god tier

Willow Ninja10/28/2015, 2:01:42 AM3 votes

Sona is to faceroll to be god tier.

Miku Hime sama10/28/2015, 2:54:50 AM3 votes

Unfortunately, that would require Rito to stop being blatantly discriminatory with their "balance" changes. Which as we already know will never happen.

Brahmsauce10/28/2015, 3:04:11 AM3 votes

The truth hurts I guess, all these downvotes to people replying to you. The fact of the matter, Sona right now is the faceroll/braindead champ to use. Her kit is "fine" in the sense she now has the unfortunate role of "that annoying poke support in lane". You can't just tune numbers, she NEEDS a full on rework and completely changed. To just tune numbers would make her so obnoxious and overbearing (and she is kinda...but after lane phase = ez pz). Your use of Janna and defensive responses is sad. Janna fills a role well and isn't god tier, there's counters and other niches other champs can fill to counter/play into her.

All said and done, I'd love Sona to be redone and be viable as a support and even midlane, and not just in ARAM. Like I said she needs a Rework, like not Taric/Poppy level but close maybe. Her kit as it stands, can't be salvaged. You people need to be asking Rito to put her on the list and not QQ'ing everywhere like there's some conspiracy against her. Seriously.

JustMyBassCannon10/28/2015, 2:03:19 AM3 votes

I didn't know Sona was trash tier.

She's certainly not faceroll-tier good, but she's pretty solid all the same.

Betoldia Prime10/28/2015, 2:18:10 AM3 votes

Sona is the definition of annoying as fuck poke Janna is the definition of an annoying as fuck CC Disengage

Why would you change either of them? its not League of Legends if it doesnt annoy you!!

Hayaishi210/28/2015, 3:12:35 AM3 votes

Faceroll champions shouldn't be good, Sona is no exception.

Athenes Lulu10/28/2015, 3:03:14 AM2 votes

Yeah, let's go back to season 3 when Sona ruled botlane.

I honestly missed it, because that's when traditional supports are actually legit picks.

RedCyclone10/28/2015, 3:02:51 PM1 votes

I don't think you quite understand what us "scum of the earth circlejerk asshole sona players" want

We don't want her in that position of absolute power, we want her to have a support build what does not make us sleep when playing it, as well as that support build actually being effective and not just literally her only using item actives

jcwolves10/28/2015, 2:58:59 AM1 votes

Sona is pretty damn good. I played her ONLY through my ranked and ended up silver 5. I mean, I know shes not the best and I know I could play more ranked and achieve a more accurate rank, but shes definitely not trash. Janna is good, don't get me wrong, but Sona, if played by someone who really understands her, is still a veryyy powerful pick.

Baby Ghoul10/28/2015, 3:51:26 AM1 votes

The reason why Janna is strong is not because of pokes or her heal, it's because of her powerful disengage that is so useful during team fighting or escaping.

That disengage saves games. Same with her absorption shield that absorbs all types of damage. As a support main, I cannot tell you how useful that is when your carry runs out in front of everyone. Sona does not have those things, so she will never be better than Janna.

Sona's kit is lacking depth and it hardly feels like she makes any meaningful plays. On top of this the sightstone item really hurts her because she needs a lot of AP to be effective. They should rework her, and the sightstone item. Sightstone and sweeping lens are essential for map control which is a supports primary job.

Edge of Daybreak10/28/2015, 6:59:19 AM1 votes

Ironically they have similar winrates. Riot would have to find a way to force us to play sona more in order to swap their power level since pickrate is the only real difference in their statistics. Also anyone wanna buy some tinfoil hat polish I'm running a special deal for anyone who shouts conspiracy!