@Riot Unintentional/Hidden Riven Buff in 6.20?

TrueNoxianWrath·10/5/2016, 11:37:22 PM·14 votes·10,445 views

https://twitter.com/scarra/status/783796215506874368

The new attack animation canceling help has made Riven a lot easier to play apparently. Its way easier to animation cancel combo with her atm.

One person responding to Scarra notes that this has happened before "at least 4 other times when you guys have re coded auto attacks".

People that dont never play her say they will play her in their high elo games now. Can we have some feedback or thoughts on this? Riven recently got a decently sized buff on her ult, and now this too?

44 Comments

RiotMeddler10/6/2016, 12:16:45 AM20 votes

Unintentional change from the sounds of it. We've got a couple of folks looking at it at the moment.

DunkinNoobs10/6/2016, 4:43:44 AM8 votes

Oh God, this shit again?

Leave it in Rito. Leave it in and then nerf her if she's too strong. Balancing her behind a bullshit mechanical trick is ridiculous and always has been.

Slythion10/5/2016, 11:51:41 PM3 votes

holy hell...that's insane 0_0

Curious Kat10/5/2016, 11:49:51 PM3 votes

Not sure if it was a hidden buff as much as an unintentional buff xD , then again, who knows right now, until we get an official statement of some kind on it.

Marshbouy10/5/2016, 11:43:27 PM3 votes

Aaaaand. now im not going to play toplane for the next week. Thanks for warning me.

MLDzXnRRR10/6/2016, 7:18:59 AM2 votes

They better leave it and finally balance Riven - it's not cool champions to be balanced around gimmicks. They removed most of the cheesy builds and frustrating mechanics from the game over the years. Why is she still allowed to permaCC, attack 3 times in 1 second without any AS steroids or bonus AS, and deal her whole kit damage when the combo is available again in a few seconds. It doesn't make any sense some champions to have hidden powers.

TyrekGoldenspear10/6/2016, 9:30:13 PM2 votes

Ryze OP now.

Point and click snare.

Outplay this.

AstraVox10/12/2016, 7:27:52 AM2 votes

I just wish Riot would adjust Riven's damage output to be the same as her average fast combo, then remove the fast combo altogether. There is no reason for such an awkward animation cancelling to be so important on any champ, and it only makes picking up Riven for new players that much more difficult.

Apocalypsic10/6/2016, 12:12:48 AM2 votes

As someone who can already fast combo I really think if it gets out of hand none of the Riven's mains are going to bat an eye if they fix that interaction.

Liofa10/6/2016, 1:00:59 AM2 votes

championship skin sales weren't high enough

the fact that meddler just confirmed they're gonna fix it maybe next patch pretty much confirms it

Cipse10/6/2016, 3:02:15 AM2 votes

Sapphire Crystal on Riven is OP

Jacknife10/6/2016, 3:08:52 AM2 votes

Ah jeez, this again? Well this'll be fun to deal with top lane. Gonna have to play Gnar just so she can't do her one-sided trades...

Slice οf Life10/7/2016, 10:24:27 PM2 votes

Don't revert it. Riven won't suddenly become super OP, it will only provide more consistent comboing for a certain group of people who have been mastering Riven for months and months... It gives Riven enthusiasts a bit of hope and helps sticking with her instead of picking Warwick and pressing R for 30 minutes. After all her new Q speed doesn't do anything on it's own. And by the way now at least the Dragonblade skin feels like it should with her normal Q speed, and the difference is noticeably slower and clunkier than let's say Championship Riven.

Fablespeaker10/8/2016, 2:32:11 PM2 votes

I've learned champion kits faster than I've mastered Riven's Q animation cancel. Please just leave this in and nerf her later if it's a problem, it's pretty hard to focus on animation canceling in teamfights when we're worried about positioning, targets, getting cc'd, ect. Other champs try a lot less hard for bigger payoff.

Alladrios10/7/2016, 9:16:23 AM1 votes

Leave it as it is. Riven is weak champion against the beasts out there... If it seems you like acrazy buff nerf her in the future!!

SG Benefitzs10/6/2016, 10:24:15 PM1 votes

Until we see some kind of LEGITIMATE reason for this to be fixed, it should not be. No other champion is gated behind some roundabout backwards broken combat style that you have to put in 10x more time to learn than other champs. People who say the riven shouldn't have animation cancelling are wrong, because gutting the only way for a champ to be viable is a stupid and illogical idea. Might as well take annies stun away and vaynes silver bolts away too? leave it as is for the time being and if this really affects winrate that much then yes, nerf it. but until she is above 55% winrate then i see no reason. As someone who is put hundreds of games into Riven the way she feels after the change not only lets less experienced players actually enjoy playing the champion but give them a way to actually play the champion like everyone else. The idea that a champ should only be accessible to the elite players is both selfish and toxic, and the main reason why riven players have the stigma they have. You can't play the champion without getting shit on by your teammates, something that doesn't happen to any other champ. This is the riven change that has been needed for years and "fixing" something that isnt broken is one of this games biggest flaws.