I'm new to League, starting out my first season in Ranked. My experience so far.

Gloric··1 votes·2,139 views

To be frank, i'm a fairly experienced gamer. From FPS, RTS, RPG, MMORPG, and others, i've played a mild amount of MOBA over the years (a little original DOTA, a little SOTA and especially mods like Zealot Frenzy on SC2). I've played my fair share of games online or otherwise since the late 90's. However I started League about 4 months ago (created my account years ago, but played till level 10 and stopped until then).

You always run into people who do stupid things, in any game, people who aren't interested in the challenge, but for the emotional high of flashy lights and explosion (granted, it's worse in the current generation of CoD gamers and such), and it's hard to get matched up with people who are a good challenge, either they're too strong, or too weak, for your skill level. That said, a lot of these games focus highly on individual skill, which isn't to say MOBAs do not, there is a level of independent play that is thoroughly needed to get anywhere. But MOBAs in particular rely so heavily on matchups being more accurate for games to be even remotely fun or challenging.

But to get to the point. My experience in ranked so far has been pretty amazingly bad. I did my 10 placement matches and got put in Silver D5. I know bronze in most games is generally where everyone is until they get a little bit better grasp of gameplay mechanics and train themselves to play better on a more reflex level, rather than having to think consciously about absolutely every click. So I was fairly happy with that, I thought to myself "well, I should be matched with and against other players of a similar caliber". But after an abysmal time of players constantly feeding their lanes, doing silly things when ahead and throwing the game, or doing even sillier things when behind, costing all chance of actually coming back from a losing position, constantly losing due to people not listening or just not even knowing how to play the champs they chose to play, I got demoted to Bronze D1. Fine I thought, maybe that's just the level I am.

I proceeded to win, from memory, every single match in Bronze 1 (which turned out to be sheer luck) and was almost within a couple hour period, back into Silver D5. I started to hypothesize "oh, maybe Silver is a bit of a hurdle and I was being matched up with other Silver 5s, and going against Silver 1s, and was just unlucky otherwise". Again though, I was losing every game, people were doing things that even in those Bronze 1 matches for promotion, just weren't doing, stupid things.

I investigated, I found that I could check people through lolnexus, during a match, to see where they were placed. What I found was somewhat confusing. In Silver 5, I rarely play with or against anyone in Silver 5 or better. Almost every match i'm placed with Bronze 3-4s, and against Bronze 1-4s. On top of this, it seems the division placement is almost arbitrary. In a recent couple of matches I played with a specific individual who doesn't even know how to leash for the jungler, stole all the xp at the start, then proceeded to play top lane which he "has never done before", proceeded to die multiple times in the first 5 minutes. And in the following game which he was placed with me again, offered blue buff to me as Vladimir (I understand there is the CDR, but it's not worth it vs say, Veigar , who was in mid and struggling at the time). He also fed the enemy team pretty badly that entire game (that said, so did the entire team, I think I was the only one with kills until the enemy had about 15, at which point they went "yolo" and just played with us until they won, giving us pitty kills here and there). This person was Bronze 1, which in my eyes, he clearly shouldn't have been even in ranked games, let alone in the first division of bronze.

So really, I guess my point is, i'm confused as to how the matchmaking and placement system works. Is there any plan to allow re-placement through provisional matches again? maybe even just paying for a rank reset with Riot points or otherwise? Because as far as I can see, there is quite literally no way to get out of bronze once you are in bronze, outside of sheer luck where you get placed against the worst of the worst 10+ matches in a row.

I know i'm not experienced, or a pro at the game. I don't know counters to every champion, I don't know every single champion's skillset, I don't know how to itemize every single champ. I don't know the masteries by heart. But i've met plenty of players who do like to spout that knowledge who don't know how to retreat when they're @ 10% hp and deep in the lane and have been pinged that the other lanes missing, among other similar things. So I don't hold that much weight in that, vs actual map and situational awareness/skill.

I also understand it's the start of the season and it's likely extremely chaotic at the moment. Lots of freshies (like myself) getting placed all over the board, people who just aren't into the min/max or playing an efficient game who have thought "i'll give ranked a go (again)" before stopping in a month or so when they can't get anywhere. So maybe it'll settle down and get a little more solid soon? I don't know.

Anyone setting up some 5v5 team or want to play some duo matches, etc..? feel free to add me, I know few people on league at the moment, the ones I do already dedicate time to people they've known on league for longer, which I fully get.\

15 Comments

vC48YNoGbJ3 votes

Feel free to read up on MMR, matchmaking rating. I think there's an article you can google titled League System or similar. Basically, you can be rated above or below your actual tier and division as far as what the system thinks your skill level is at. Lower skill level makes it easy to fall in ranking and higher MMR/skill level makes it easier to climb.

Strat2 votes

Your MMR is what determines matchmaking, not your LP/tier. Getting matched up with Bronze 3-4 means that you're close to being demoted again - once your MMR matches roughly Bronze V (maybe low Bronze 4) you get demoted.

You seem to be under the false impression that mechanics is what carries you from low Elo to higher Elo. This is not the case. I've seen plenty of people in higher Elo (not Diamond, but high Plat where I was last season) with DREADFUL mechanics. While mechanics CAN help you get to high Elo, it's not the defining factor.

The defining factor is getting good at the basics of the game. If you're ADC/mid/top, it means getting better at CSing. You want to be getting 100+ CS by 12-13 minutes, preferably even more if possible! It also means making more efficient trades, learning to position yourself better in lane and in team fights, and finding ways to correctly avoid ganks (buy wards, even as ADC if you have to! you're paying 75 gold to not die! 75 gold to deny the enemy 300 gold!).

Get good at support. You're going to be playing it no matter what, and it's highly underestimated by low Elo players in terms of its value to a team and the contribution a support can make towards a win. You do NOT need to carry a game to win, not even in low Elo. Hell, when I was in low Elo, I actually supported my way out, without duo queue! Learn to control vision, time objectives (with all roles), proactively search for dangers for your ADC, and recognise the correct time to roam (you can roam with any support, even heal-types like Soraka!).

Feel free to ask any questions or voice any doubts you might have. I'll be happy to give more tips/advice.

Gloric1 votes

Oh i'm not under any false impressions when it comes to that. The stuff you're talking about is something I constantly strive to be better at, and that's what I meant by a personal skill level not being all, but definitely part of the game, which is important no-doubt, but when it comes to winning, it just doesn't matter if you have lanes that feel 10 kills in 5 minutes (especially when bot loses their cool after dying once). And that's what i'm mainly referring to, one lane completely failing the team before anyone has a chance to get a little ahead.. My personal game is something i'm fairly proud to say I am improving all the time. Overall, team play, even if they are good in a team fight, they're obsessed with getting max kit/drag buffs/etc.., to a self destructive degree.

Just played a match for example; we had it won at 60/40, the entire team kept running off solo, farming lanes and going for drags (and losing them, because of not pulling them out of the hole so they couldn't flash smite), and in the end, we lost, something like 67/74. Because they let them get max kit and get more drags instead of just putting pressure and ending it (and we had like 3 major opportunities).

You can't solo game out of that, there's absolutely nothing I could do when my team mates decide it's better to get a 4th dragon buff than it is to win the game.

Gloric1 votes

Also i'm probably misunderstanding or not knowing what you mean by Mechanics. Because csing would be mechanics, in my books. positioning would be mechanics. etc..

rth21 votes

You are both talking about mechanics. CSing, positioning, etc... are all mechanics, but they are more game/basic mechanics. Usually when somebody mentions just plain "mechanics" they mean the ability to maximize a particular champions kit or your mastery over that particular champion. This would be like having ball control with Orianna.

You can think of it like "champion X mechanics" is how most people refer to mechanics. Example, check out those Vayne mechanics!

Tyren2 votes

I'm in a similar boat. Last night I thought I'd give ranked a try doing support. Here is the TL:DR: Game 1: Picked Thresh, everything was going great. Everyone one lane, had top and mid inhibs down by the time a was level 13. Instead of putting pressure on a lane, or the Nexus turrets, decided to do drag and and a failed Baron. Gave the Enemy team enough time to kill us and out farm.

Game 2: Picked Janna, adc thinks it's a good idea to charge in when I'm out of mana. Feeds 3 kills, and I died once to save him. He still tried to 2v1. Lost Horribly from there.

Maybe we can try to duo que sometime?

Dark Topline1 votes

Unfortunately once you've gone and done your placement matches, you're stuck in that ranked tier until the following season. You'll have to climb through hell to work your way up to a better group of players. Best of luck climbing though, you'll make it eventually if you're determined.

MrPerson101 votes

Unfortunately, the feeding and stupid mistakes haven't stopped for me or my teammates - I've made it to platinum I promos into Diamond V on two out of 4 accounts.

Half of what I see in midlane belongs in bronze and when I jungle, I end up babysitting rather than jungling.

Raptamei1 votes

The division you are in has nothing to do with your skill level. MMR is hidden.

Dinitrophenol1 votes

if you cannot get out of bronze or silver, its because you belong there. end of story, just another my team sucks rant... story gets old no matter how many characters you use.

YoungFishFillet1 votes

Lmao exactly.

ducobu1231 votes

This game is 5 v 5 not 1 v 5, i don't believe a Challenger will win a game while he's alone against 5 bronze, cause that's a game that depends 80% about teamworks.

ducobu1231 votes

ok no... maybe 95%

ducobu1231 votes

it's mathematicly not totally like this. This game needs teamwork, you cannot play solo at lol like a game of call of duty, because in fps you dont get higher lvl than your enemy during the match for the points you get(cs/exp/kills). But in LoL your advantage against the enemy depends on your points. if my team have only 2-3 items but an enemy fed has already full build, your skills will not stop him to destroy your turrets casue if you approach while your melee you'll get killed in 1 hit xD. People in LCS has A BIG advantage casue they are a team of 5 people who can actually play like a team and THEY have DECIDE to play with them. In solo rank, I CAN'T decide if our adc wants to cry and decide to troll only because our jungle didn't gank enough. Why should i pay cause our adc is a baby? The system of the game is not adapted for things like this (im more talking about trolling or stop to play because it's something that happen to me (how lucky i am xD) so many times in bronze) So i'm very curious about When my real skills are tested by the system? When they gank me(and kill me) while i was under turret cause the enemy has already 250 AD/450 mov. speed/3000 health during i only have lvl 5 cause the game has just started 10 minutes ago but they are already so fed ?? Or when they kill me when i revive in my spawn wtf xD ? When?? Tell me when? plzzzz

TeemoJenkins1 votes

Always up to duo, was Silver last season, working my way up from Bronze V this season after some dismal provisionals - currently BII

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