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To ALL Supports

DanyTargaryn·1/20/2015, 2:23:06 PM·2 votes·2,350 views

When it's still the laning phase and we are up against the bot lane, please do not go renegade cop on me and start roaming other lanes to "help out" until we are both in a good place. It just ends up not helping out at all - making your adc be zoned out, lose farm and possibly get all-in by the bot team. If you wanted to go commando on us, you should have picked jungle.

EDIT: I see a lot of 'situational arguments' here and it's getting repetitive. Please keep in mind that the key word here is "laning phase" where both their bot team is present, and the creeps aren't up against your turret for the 'adc' to farm. Please stop creating ideal situations to justify killing your ADC. Not every adc in this game is a rager and no, not every adc blames you for their mistake. To be fair, supports are very important in the game! Which is why and adc is nothing without their support.

EDIT: Feedbacks both good and bad are well appreciated! Though many negative feedbacks regarding adc's, I'd still like to thank you for putting your opinion down!

45 Comments

Diostukos1/20/2015, 5:04:59 PM8 votes

Actually, if all that's happening bot is farming, and you see that their midlaner is pushed out, ganking mid is a great idea. I was Leona and my midlaner a fizz, and theirs an AD Trist. I just waited for a few seconds and the second she used Rocket Jump I locked her down and gave him the kills to come back into the game.

If your adc doesn't know how to farm under tower for a mere 30 seconds then that's their problem; supports aren't chained to the adc, they're there for the whole team.

TSM Baka1/20/2015, 2:42:52 PM7 votes

If the creeps are being pushed into our turret then it's ok to roam. If you cannot farm under turret by yourself then you are not worthy of me.

Sincerely, Blitzcrank , Leona , Annie , Lulu

the Anarchit3cht1/20/2015, 8:09:22 PM5 votes

I also find it silly that you're saying "Don't generalize ADCs" when all you're doing is generalizing supports. Lay down the double standards and you might get a bit of a better reception.

the Anarchit3cht1/20/2015, 8:06:55 PM5 votes

Just saying, the support isn't your personal bitch. If you can't farm safely that's not our problem.

DrCyanide1/20/2015, 8:29:25 PM4 votes

I'd like to point out that as the mid laner, I like it when the support roams to help me in my laning phase.

I'd also like to point out that as a mid laner, I have to survive in situations where it's a 2v1 whenever the enemy Jungler shows up, and sometimes a 3v1 when their top laner gets board of split pushing. As such, I have a hard time showing pitty to some ADC who can't handle a 2v1 for a minute. You're building AD and AS, your last hitting shouldn't suffer hardly at all, even under tower. You have a trinket, you can ward a bush if you need to.

I'm also extremely curious how you handle those times when your support needs to go back to base before you do. Do you curl up in a ball, fearing that the second the recall finishes the enemy ADC and Support are going to stun you under tower, kill you, and get out before a single shot is fired? Because it's not that much different when they go roam mid for a little while.

Stephenizgod1/20/2015, 8:21:52 PM3 votes

I love how you are saying that we shouldnt bring up 'situational arguments' weeeeell yours is a 'situational argument' too lol. You are assuming the support is leaving you while you are being pushed to the turret by the enemy team. The support isnt going to leave if the enemy laners are attacking you, when i roam it is when we just killed the enemies or i see they are in a different lane, but oh my god i guess that a 'situational argument' oh no, too bad the only way to converse on the subject is to use 'situational arguments'... i mean to justify leaving or not leaving you need to specify in which situations the support leaves, are they leaving when the enemies are there or not? thats a 'situational argument'... Im guessing the only "sitautional arguments' you are ok with are ones in your favor yeah? Btw saying "dont use 'situational arguments'" is a dumb way of saying "they dont support my argument so they're invalid"

So next time you want to complain make sure you are ready to read opposing opinions or dont post something like this, not everyone is going to agree with you.

Xonra1/20/2015, 6:27:52 PM3 votes

I don't completely disagree with his but most of the time ADCs can't survive without their support as if they start to panic or something and just flail around the lane as if they are about to catch fire.

I will see my adc just passively farming, we are pushing up to their tower so I think to myself "Ya know, this would be a great time to get a ward on their blue (if I'm on blue side) so I run over there real quick, and drop a ward. I look down and see my adc is still farming away, nothing is going on so I go "ya know, I can put a ward closer to mid to help him and I still won't be gone...and hey, my adc is getting extra xp now, awesome", I go to place the second ward and suddenly realize my adc has been possessed by a meth addict and is shooting at the enemy under turret or trying to fight them suddenly....then yells because I wasn't there asking wtf am I doing etc etc.

It is the supports job to help you in lane, it is the supports job to keep that area warded, and it is the supports job to...support. It is NOT the supports job to hold your hand, point you in the direction of what to do and not to do, and it isn't my job to ignore everyone else because you can't handle staying in the lane by yourself for less than 1 minute without bursting into flames and dying.

Tin Tarantino1/20/2015, 8:31:57 PM3 votes

Had the enemy Blitz do this a few games ago, pretty much threw the game for his team, the Vayne couldn't CS so they ended up getting set far behind. He did it because the lane wasn't going his way, and raged at the ADC in the post game lobby, you could make jerky with all that salt. It was pretty much an AFK without the commitment.

Dayblazer1/20/2015, 8:26:05 PM2 votes

I'll go where I please thanks.

NinjaToad991/21/2015, 1:00:57 AM2 votes

Just gonna quickly say this, saying that all of these are "Situational arguments" whilst your argument is also a situational argument makes you seem like a real hypocrite.

Just for future reference.

Brotha1/21/2015, 1:24:25 AM2 votes

My apologies, when I think of a support roaming mid i do so with the mindset that they have mobility boots and probably 21 in the utility tree. That movement speed would allow them to go through river up toward mid, try to make a play, and then zoom back botlane. Of course I've watched adc's die in the literal 5 seconds it takes me to ward tri+drake. 20 seconds may be generous though since if you succeeded in your gank you should spend about 10 seconds in mid alone. I'll bring the number up to 30-35. Also please read thoroughly, I said come MID GAME a midlaner is more valuable than an adc. This is because most adc's hit a powerspike from having two items. midgame a nonfed average farmed adc will probably have one item and working on a second, midlaners hit a big power spike from finishing their first item because their damage relies on BURST before enemies start building defensive items. This is what makes them more valuable during the midgame in a teamfight. Lategame I'd concede that adc is probably the most important priority to peel for considering they're dishing out far more sustained damage.

FantasySniper1/21/2015, 2:22:01 AM1 votes

Never risk this before the 10 minute mark anyways, but beyond that, the ADC should probably try to follow the support or just stay near tower.

Of course, I have been in situations where the support had no f-cking idea how to roam properly and got themselves caught because "putting down that ward was worth it."

Brotha1/21/2015, 1:06:50 AM1 votes

Most midlaners are more valuable to the team come midgame than adc is for midgame. It may take me 20 seconds to roam mid, try to get a kill than return back botlane. A good support will communicate with their adc and let them know to play safe for a moment and just farm with their long range abilities, most adcs have one. If the adc isn't confident than merely turret hug for the 20 seconds your support will be gone, getting 7 creeps behind your lane opponent is not the end of the world. Best of all so long as support and mid were able to put some damage on the midlaner that would be an ideal time to force a fight at drake considering you now have an advantage. Sorry to any ADC's that do not agree, but this game does not revolve around JUST YOU getting fed and farmed.