Revert minions pre 8.23 to fix ranked

Skýcrow·2/17/2020, 7:25:39 PM·24 votes·10,858 views

Before 8.23

-You push minions past 15min game, enemy minion wave stops ur wave, has not enough damage to kill ur wave, second wave incoming faster, stacking up, slow pushing back towards ur side, stacking up more, u go sidelane, u get 20cs.

After 8.23

-Minions get hard increased damage, you push wave, enemy minion wave kills almost ur entire wave, next waves incoming, killing almost each other together again, perma freezing, If a enemy pushes it out, u only get a few minions like 5-7 anyways. Less exp gold.

Changes hardcore affect playstyle. Every winning team ignores waves on Sidelanes, because they can't care much less to get a handfull of minions worth of ridiculous low amount of exp and gold since they don't stack up anymore, so they go for pressure 24/7 ward out ur jungle, take ur jungle camps, try to perma towerdive, flank and kill you. Resulting in the team that wins to win most of the games, since it basically says, macro is useless in Solo queue.

The winning Player in the loosing team has no gold income anymore. Basically people on average lost 2.0cs since that change hittet live server. If u think 2.0cs are low then think again. In 30minutes this means every of the 10Players is loosing 60CS compared to before the Change.

In the past if u won ur lane and everyone lost u could get to a 100bonus cs if u played the game extremely clever and smart, this meant u could gain a 2k gold lead just by minions over ur opponents and maybe even a 2level lead while the winning enemys shared it each other if they refuse to pick up sidelanes, and u had increased carry potential this is no longer the case

And what happens if they pick up sidelane minions you think? Then they can't perma kill u with their lead meaning games become automatically much closer even if a team wins.

Statistic shows that kills+ have increased around 30% after this change hittet life servers on average. And it's still the same to this day. Just go ahead and check it

5 Comments

rawiazam12/17/2020, 9:57:49 PM8 votes

no, no no no no. WE got to keep this meta, this is fine. Being rickrolled for 30 minutes or rolling over the enemy team is fun and interactive gameplay. It doesn't force players like me who averaged 10 games a day to play about 1-2 games a day and go for other games And eventually ditching league

JRobin312/18/2020, 2:02:00 AM4 votes

Don't worry, RIOT will eventually retire SR because players prefer ARAM. /s

VonCesaw2/18/2020, 5:49:54 AM4 votes

FIX champions with cape hitboxesRakan Vayne Aatrox Azir It makes a little sense that it works with pulls. It makes no sense that it works with arrows, knives, etc.

FIX champions having a hitbox LARGER than their model Sion Ornn TahmKench Dunno who thought being pinned by minions from either team was a fun game mechanic. Human champions make more skin sales I guess, might as well make sure that people only play them

FIX pull hitboxes being AOE at the end (To hell with your damn lollipopping) Blitzcrank Morgana Nautilus Is the reason supposed to be that it's more satisfying to play? It'd make sense if you consider that the champion team doesn't consider how fun champions are to play against. Just look at the abominations they've made.

RESTORE True sight. Not that crap you call true sight now. TRUE SIGHT. WHERE YOU CAN SEE THEM.

REMOVE Stealth being a form of dodge (IE Cannot be auto attacked). If assassins are supposed to be the only counter to marksmen, why are there supports, mages, fighters, tanks, and artillery mages that are also built for the same job? Why remove all risk for diving in on a DPS? Isn't the risk supposed to be why there's a counterplay for it?

REMOVE all the giant bushes. Especially under ocean. If you wanted tank junglers to die off, you already succeeded before you made more assassin bushes. I know that you want your Zed Talon LeeSin Vayne Riven Sett Thresh Blitzcrank Pyke to be happy, but the advice that your Support Team gives for any problem "You should ward more" "You should buy vision wards" "You should be warding more" becomes kinda pointless when you give more bushes that you NEED to ward through threat of losing

Get Outscaled2/18/2020, 8:29:54 PM1 votes

I am so happy someone finally mentions this. I was waiting for so long for someone else beside me noticing this. I saw the patch and I was absolutely sad, I wonder why others didn't see it. It influences the game so much it's unreal and it's super annoying as well.