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Akali is too weak for her role

Shaithias·1/20/2019, 9:38:24 PM·8 votes·2,727 views

Ok, so first, akali has only 1 useful offensive ability Five point strike with Kunai. The problem with those Kunai is that it relies on energy instead of charges. What increases energy regen? haste? Attack damage? Magic resist? LOL? This is a problem because it caps her damage output compared to virtually every other hero that has 2-3 offensive abilities. If the five point strike relied on charges instead of energy... now we are talking.

Second, akali's smoke cloud. Its very op, but also extraordinarily lacking in utility. It provides no advantage in a teamfight, And what is worse is that it can't be chained at max cdr. Here is a potential rework: When twilight shroud is cast, enemies inside it take damage over time and are slowed. When akali attacks, twilight shroud ends. If Twilight shroud ends without Akali attacking or using another ability, it immediately refunds the cooldown. See what I did there? I nerfed the OP aspect of twilight shroud, and added some much needed utility to it.

Third, Shuriken flip is stupid. Very very stupid. It is not used offensively, so much as it is used defensively. Imo, it should be replaced by a Kama that is thrown at a target, and once it connects, akali can dash to the target, dealing damage. This way, its an actual cool to use ability instead of spray and pray or use for escape ability.

Fourth. Perfect execution needs a buff. Why? Look no farther than pyke. He has a rush as well. His rush is literally on 9 sec cd. It deals comparable damage. It stuns for longer. It even looks cooler. Why is akali's rush so lame? Give her 3 charges, and let her use the rush whenever she likes, and at max cdr + max level for her ult, it should be on 15 sec cd, and do at least 1.5s of stun time.

Fifth. Akali's assassin's mark is not useful against heros. They don't run away! Give her something else, maybe something to up her melee dps, or recover health over time. Those are her weaknesses. :(

12 Comments

Highvoltage9991/20/2019, 9:49:20 PM3 votes

Akali is bad in lane but can carry if she gets a lead. I love laning versus an akali a lot since she is weak

Kai Guy1/20/2019, 9:46:02 PM2 votes

I hate the tilt on the boards over Akali being OP. Most the complaints are mechanically not an issue to deal with. I take issue with folks who exaggerate and don't reflect the game state accurately.

You did this, being the unpopular side does not give you a pass. Please adjust your post to be more accurate to the game state or just live with me and other downvoteing ya.

Passive is a core part of akalis kit. Its a key mechanic. her E is fantastic, has instant utility or can make for a hell of a brutal gap close, or funky fun escape with good W usage.

W has massive utility besides the stealth. It also gives akalai most her survivability in team fights. Please don't ignore the interactions of W with energy and her E.

R is fine.

Akali has multiple threats outside of just hitting her Q. So I take issue with your post.

In advanced. @otherposters, Should yall reply. If you call her tower immune I am going to call you out because that's blatantly wrong information. shes not, stop perpetuating garbage information and be accurate to the game. Its not difficult.

SeaWeaboo1/20/2019, 10:20:46 PM2 votes

You did not nerf the op aspect of shroud, you just made the ability something new. True stealth is what makes shroud so strong. You can not target or see her no matter what unless she attacks. Not even turrets can see her which makes her already decent tower diving increased tenfold if the Akali knows what they are doing. Her shroud has massive utility as well. She can throw her shuriken in it to poke and outplay, and she gets bonus movement speed while in it. Your rework for her flip is literally the exact same thing just with no rollback. Her heal on q is r%%%%%ed and should be removed. Her execution does a ton of damage if you use it right. Her ult is pretty good right now, but the micro stun is annoying.

BLOODBATH SADIST5/7/2019, 8:08:33 PM2 votes

People keep saying she's broken when she's literally like the second to last on the mid rankings list. Oh please. The player is just godly. [sg-miss-fortune]

That said, I agree. Maybe I'm just bad but she feels like a squishy assassin with a tanky top laner skill kit.

Ironically, as an assassin, her passive requires her to move away from her target and go back in to get off a melee on them. It's crazy backwards for a super squishy assassin unit. Assassins are not meant to swordfight around their enemy like fiora or urgot. They do not have the life and time for it.

Her Q's range is horrid, is her only natural method of offense, and more often than not, will generate her passive ring, which she will not be able to use unless she, again, 180s and hauls ass away from her target.

Her W's shroud takes her off the grid, but it doesn't really do much else for her. You can still take non-click damage, and as a squishy unit, in team fights, this will destroy you even while hidden, not to mention you still have to get off an elaborate combo that (somehow) includes your passive with your 40% remaining health.

Her E pretty much sucks. I don't know many other skills that punish the player for missing a needle hole skillshot. It's like they wanted to make her Passive and E skills the opposite of assassin-friendly by moving you away from your execution target, and even if it does connect and you go in, you can't proc your passive while you're in.

Her R isn't strong on it's own. It isn't a trump card. It's more of a free dash that let's you get in our out, and let's wait another 2.5 seconds in the heat of the moment to cast it again. I don't understand it at all. Literally every other assassin in this game does not try to be fiora. Zed gets in and gets out clean. Talon gets in and gets out clean. Akali has to land 5 perfect skillshots while she's losing her own orientation because of her own skills while running out of a ring around the rosey between her and her target while also playing around an ult that gives you half now and half later. You get what I'm saying?

You know what? I'll never believe she's broken on her own two feet. She requires unmatched skill imo. If anyone plays Akali well, props to them, as a player and I need to know how they're doing in Harvard. [sg-lux-2]

NatKing1u1z8/4/2019, 8:07:30 PM1 votes

I agree, Akali feels weak and ever since her nerfs playing her has gotten gimmicky. Her shroud is a joke enemy champs just walk right in and wait for you to appear, half the time you're not even hidden. Her Q is crap for the simple fact of the threshold you have to pass in order to proc, a rather large circle IMO. Her dash is garbage vs a knowledgeable player or even a range champ, it is impossible to land. Her ult CD for second activation takes too long which means you'll have to disengage then re-engage battle just like her Q. She is now a gimmick champ, so much that professor Akali is making vids of himself smurfing low ELO. Also her ult practically does no damage, once and execution spell now it's just another dash for evasion.

Another thing, the Ults CD in general makes no since unless you stack CD items and you can add shroud to this argument as well.