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Lux has a huge gameplay issue and Riot has been refusing to aknowledge it for months

Namazu Ebisu·2/28/2018, 11:37:05 PM·26 votes·21,754 views

https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/OecZcuvK-with-the-new-ap-items-luxs-e-needs-to-change-asap

I made a PBE thread as soon as i tested the AP changes when they came out. I am Mastery 7 on Lux and as many others do probably it wasn't such a big thing to predict she'd become TRASH tier with the changes :

https://puu.sh/zxR1m/ad5560f4db.png

I called it, lots called it and despite that Riot just denied it. When it comes to skins she gets the sweet spots but gameplay wise she has had the biggest inconcistency for years and now it hurts her like never before.

Her laning phase is bad. Her E costs 130 mana so more than her goddamn ultimate and it cannot even kill CASTER MINIONS. In fact Lux was and is the only mage in the game who strictly needs to use minion dematerializer in order to wave clear, which is insane. But that she cannot do anymore because her E cost is garbage and without Morello she has insane mana issues. Couple that with the fact that..you know..she can't waveclear and you get the miserable winrate she currently has and will have until they buff her. She can only burst something once in hope it doesn't have shields or anti-cc and then hide in a bush in shame until her atrocious CD are back.

Can we finally have a real Rioters thoughts on Lux's state and WHY they allow her E for all this time to be this bad in both cost and efficiency? THANK YOU.

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151 Comments

Khristophoros3/1/2018, 12:03:07 AM48 votes

Her E costs a lot because it is oppressive lane harass. You can only avoid it by standing really far back and accept being zoned off the minions because it's only dodgeable when it has the full travel time. So it can't cost less mana.

Here's a reasonable option but I doubt they'll do it:

Rescale the mana cost to 60/70/80/90/100 Rescale the base damage to 50 / 100 / 150 / 200 / 250 Make it more delayed. Maybe a 0.25s delay when it pops, or maybe adjust the travel time so that it starts out slower and speeds up so that mid-range it can be dodged.

Lux mains will downvote this post but I'm just telling the hard truth. A harass tool that good can't be cheap. It has to be a worse harass tool if you want it to be cheaper.

RiotRiotRepertoir3/1/2018, 1:13:07 AM30 votes

Can we finally have a real Rioters thoughts on Lux's state and WHY they allow her E for all this time to be this bad in both cost and efficiency?

As to her current state, general opinion is that she's not great from a power perspective, and I'd believe it if she didn't win big off the AP item changes.

Lux's E has been allowed to have its cost:damage ratio be so poor because the spell is pretty unfair from a hittability perspective. We could probably make it a bit smaller or slower but more efficient, but we'd want to make sure it didn't leave it unsatisfying or negatively impact her pattern.

oCyst3/1/2018, 1:40:17 PM7 votes

Atrocious cd?? Her ult is ridiculously strong and is just stupidly short cd when u get a kill with, which is sooo easy with your combo. Shouldnt complain, besides i dont have respect for lux mains.

Mysticman893/1/2018, 12:18:05 AM5 votes

Would making lux E do more damage if its left to sit longer potentially help, akin to gragas Q?

If a charged E was effective waveclear but an uncharged one not so much (i.e. doing less than live), it might make more interesting choices between waveclear or harass, instead of the current situation where it's none or both depending on tuning.

(CD and/or mana cost could also be more freely tuned alongside the above.)

Meep Man3/1/2018, 12:00:54 AM5 votes

There's a reasoning behind the bad E mana cost, and that's because a lot of people find it VERY hard to dodge when the Lux is good. Am I saying this is true? No. Does it hold a little bit of truth that Lux's E is pretty hard to dodge? Somewhat. Although I can say the same thing about a much more spammable skill, like Xerath's Q and W.

SwiftKitten883/1/2018, 2:31:31 AM4 votes

as a lvl 7 lux support... WUT? even building support (which ironically on her now only consists of item 3098 item 3504 and item 3905 ) you can kill the wave of backline minions with your E. i mean SURE you need ap and a lvl 1 E isn't going to do it...

but my god i don't see an issue with her at all

yeah i know but if i can 2 shot them as support I'm PRETTY sure u can with a full mage build.

besides E + auto... you should be dong that anyways..., if you were complaining about melee minions sure... you have a valid point there those are really annoying to deal with as lux.. but the casters? she is fine vs those

underscores2223/1/2018, 6:09:38 AM4 votes

Hello, as a fellow Lux player - I do enjoy her but I would not call myself a main since I only have ~118k mastery on her - I do not think her E is unfair to her. Yes, it can't 1shot casters until you get some AP behind you, but it does allow her to easily auto the casters with her passive, which is almost the same thing. I personally think it is much better as it was intended - a poke/zoning tool. She is designed to move into mid-range to optimize her passive, which I rarely see people doing consistently with her.

Bjørnetjenesten3/1/2018, 4:03:20 PM3 votes

Didn't know lux was unable to autoattack minions.

EDAGASE3/1/2018, 3:19:05 AM3 votes

I mean she shouldnt be stomping anyways, with how braindead she is.

bigdirtywhitey3/1/2018, 1:04:54 PM2 votes

I came in here thinking this guy was crying about an in game bug or something. Her e is a massive slow? That can harrass almost anyone mid trying to farm . I think you just don’t realize how to play her yet or something ? Massive cc and burst? Q hit box is buggy as hell. Hitting me when it doesn’t even hit and than curving like a bard Q to stun the Adc. She is an high risk high reward skill shot champion. Please rito, don’t listen to this guy. Can we listen to higher ranked players pleasee

Raid Boss Morde3/1/2018, 10:02:39 AM2 votes

Lux is getting buffed for having a 47% winrate? Oh noooo... Morde's was at a 44% winrate this patch, and now it's 46%. No buffs or anything from Riot about Morde, but Lux needs it, right? :^)

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