How Do Smurs Help You Learn?

DSRM Mobius·12/23/2014, 6:31:33 PM·2 votes·1,075 views

my friend and I are having an argument on, do smurfs help you learn how to play the game better than you would on your main? I would like to know what you guys think

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Seth Lightheart12/23/2014, 6:38:29 PM3 votes

I think it is almost the opposite (generally). You play with people on a lot lower of a skill level and it lets you make a lot more mistakes.

The only exception might be it allows you to learn champs you wouldn't otherwise play.

BRBGTGBOWFLEX12/23/2014, 6:49:32 PM3 votes

Yes, smurfing does help, but you have to actually be good enough to learn from it.

What smurfing teaches you is how to carry a game. Anyone in a game full of less skilled players can do well in lane, but that doesn't always translate to a win. The reason to smurf is to learn how to translate a winning lane into a winning game. Or, how to make your own individual play that is better than everyone else, make the game a winning game.

This can actually be very hard to do. I had a game on my Riven smurf account where I went 45-9-3 (our team had 49 kills total). The other team had 54 kills total and was winning every lane but my lane. So, in order to win that game, I needed to carry each laner and put them in a position to knock down turrets. It was insanely hard, because every one of my teammates was not going to be useful, all were 1-10 or worse, and carrying the game took a lot of work (basically, the only way my team could win a lane is if their opponent was dead or not there).

So, I basically went around eliminating any possibility for the other team to fight mine, by killing all of them. Usually it was just killing two or so at a time, but I did get a 1v5 Penta, but noticed around that time, that I was falling off and needed to end fast or I wouldn't be able to carry the game.

Anyways, yes, smurfing helps teach how to carry.

DSRM Mobius12/23/2014, 6:44:23 PM1 votes

I just want to thank you guys for giving your opinion and thanks for looking at this post it helps a lot thanks

Seth Lightheart12/23/2014, 7:21:08 PM1 votes

There is one more think I want to add to this. If you REALLY want to get better and not just beat up on people who are worse than you say this, "I suck because i'm not at master tier... what could I have done to be better" no matter what happens in a game, blame yourself. The second you think it was 100% the other guy's fault is when you think you were perfect and are not getting better.

When I want to get better I replay all of my games and hit myself for messing up, especially on the little stuff! Even if I was 18/2/11 what could have I don't better? Could I have been 25/0/20 if I made a few better plays? Or maybe I should have died a few more times giving my team a few more team kills.

EstebanElGuapo12/23/2014, 9:54:55 PM1 votes

I have an argument that I don't see here. I've heard a joke I liked: 'I'm plat amumu, but i'm bronze with every one else'. It reminds me of the point I wanted to make.

If you focused on only one or two champs to get you to level 30 and to whatever normals hidden mmr that you are currently rated at and playing against; You may find it difficult to play new champs against that same skill level of people.

It may be very difficult to learn other champs because you are playing them at noob skill level against people who are playing with their main champs at whatever rating you reached with your skilled champions. Might be that it would be better if your different champs had different mmr ratings. Like the new teambuilder suggests that it takes into consideration.

Having a smurf would give you a skill level reset so you would have an oppoturnity to learn other champions that you are not able to learn effectively on your main account due to complete lack of skill at the champ or champions in question.

A Slime Appears12/24/2014, 1:36:32 AM1 votes

Smurfing is what you do when your main is 0 LP and you are in division 5. If I had 1 LP for each time someone names their main and it's exactly that, I"d be #1 spot in challenger. Also when I find people trolling normals, guess what? 0 LP plat 5 or whatever. Shit is sad.

disregardable12/23/2014, 6:34:57 PM1 votes

No.

DSRM Mobius12/24/2014, 2:20:53 AM1 votes

just to clear things up I don't want to make a smurf to beat on noobs that would just be cruel and I despise anyone who does that the reason I would like to make a smurf is to get to lvl 30 and try to win all of my provisional games in ranked I made a lot of mistakes on my main like buying energy runes and not learning a champ really well. I would do things differently on my smurf.

Rikitik12/23/2014, 6:42:35 PM1 votes

The only way it can "help" is in the same way choosing to play with an empty rune page and no masteries would. I guess it might help with mechanics a little, but to be honest, learning the timings and the real damage you do/take with full runes/masteries is probably better.