The mind of the Riot balance team: DAMAGE DAMAGE DAMAGE! WE NEED MORE DAMAGE!

seilkops·2/8/2018, 4:23:49 PM·104 votes·6,717 views

Is a problem, know what'll fix her? +1 second CD on her Q! Her damage is fiiiiiiiine...

Dealt a little bit less damage than we'd hoped for with new runes, so you know what? MORE DAMAGE!

Isn't doing as well as other ADCs, so instead of nerfing THOSE lets give him MORE DAMAGE!

You guessed it MORE DAMAGE! He really needs it, the game needs it.

Been awhile since we touched this guy, know what he needs to give that Crit cheese more oomph? MORE DAMAGE!

You know those minions this guy can obliterate with his AOE soldier autos? Well uh... h-he draws aggro from them now?

So glad we just increased the damage in this game while doing nothing to actually handle what's already here:

40 less damage at max level 2% less Max HP damage, finally manageable /s/s/s/s/s

137 Comments

xxxMadLionxxx2/8/2018, 5:03:22 PM59 votes

Until I can one shot enemy tank with one auto, I'm not happy

Cowgirl Ed2/8/2018, 4:53:00 PM50 votes

i'm surprised they didn't give swain a leap that goes through tower and terrain

Raiyza2/8/2018, 7:36:12 PM13 votes

Riot said that they want games to be explosive and more exciting.

They have somewhat accomplished it, but not in a good way. Damage needs to go down and they need to either make more types of objectives, or something like that.

Death by Glamour2/8/2018, 6:17:20 PM13 votes

They seem to always take the easy route rather than doing what needs to actually be done.

wildfox992/8/2018, 4:54:23 PM12 votes

Is a problem, know what'll fix her? +1 second CD on her Q! Her damage is fiiiiiiiine...

zoe's damage is fine,she's a mid laner she's supposed to deal damage (her full rotation doesn't even deal so much damage compared with other mid laners)

her problem is how she apply this damage and how hard is to punish her

edit : it's funny how if you don't follow the board's complain but you try to reason,you get downvoted into oblivion without anyone that can give a answer that's not "you are wrong because yes"

edit 2 :

i heard it seemed like i was defending her,so for clarity that was my answer

i'm not defendig her (i even said many times that i think she's broken,and personally if i could i would just remove this champion from lol),and why you think her full combo means her Q?

i said it many times,her Q and E Q deal too much damage,but her kit in general (so adding her W and P and comparing a full rotation with other mages like you are hitting a pratice tool dummy) isn't too high,so intead nerfing her damage she should lose some of her unneded tools in her kit (e.g. the CDR on her E and/or the trap) and having less damage on her Q/E but more on her W (so she rely more on stealing summoner spells/items and hitting you in a low range dodging with her movement speed than oneshooting you from 800+range,it'd give her a risky and less frustrating gameplay,but it would still reward good zoe players)

just nerfing her damage while it's like the average of mid laners means making her weak (penalizing too much her mains) but keeping her kit unhealty,again her problem is not the damage itself but HOW she deals it (basically only with her Q,an high range low CD and mana cost skill,and with that she can deal damage without tanking any risk from an insane range)

if you didn't get it now,idk how to explain it anymore

Karfuss2/8/2018, 9:37:09 PM9 votes

How to define power creeping? League of Legends.

Lucian now overpowered? Well all the other ADCs aren't performing as well as we'd like, so we're upping Caitlyn, Tristana and Vayne's base AD. Vayne is now OP? Other ADCs aren't performing as well as we'd like, so we're upping...

Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

Thanatas2/8/2018, 8:28:45 PM7 votes

{quoted}

Is a problem, know what'll fix her? +1 second CD on her Q! Her damage is fiiiiiiiine...

Dealt a little bit less damage than we'd hoped for with new runes, so you know what? MORE DAMAGE!

Isn't doing as well as other ADCs, so instead of nerfing THOSE lets give him MORE DAMAGE!

You guessed it MORE DAMAGE! He really needs it, the game needs it.

Been awhile since we touched this guy, know what he needs to give that Crit cheese more oomph? MORE DAMAGE!

You know those minions this guy can obliterate with his AOE soldier autos? Well uh... h-he draws aggro from them now?

So glad we just increased the damage in this game while doing nothing to actually handle what's already here:

40 less damage at max level 2% less Max HP damage, finally manageable /s/s/s/s/s

thats what ghostcrawler did to wow. you reap what you sow when you hire a numbskull like that who has a reputation for ruining the BIGGEST GAME EVER.

TeCoolMage2/8/2018, 6:51:53 PM7 votes

Doesn't list numbers for damage buffs Lists damage nerfs with numbers

Complains Riot always adds damage

???

Inb4 hivemind rejects opposing opinion and downvotes

Edit: I'm not surprised

likerio2/8/2018, 8:59:18 PM5 votes

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FCJAAAAGOOOO2/8/2018, 6:40:47 PM4 votes

You forgot Ornn's buff on PBE

yoshi27902/9/2018, 5:31:46 PM3 votes

Zoe is getting good nerfs....

TheHappyReaperz2/8/2018, 9:48:59 PM3 votes

Zoe Less than 50% winrate, but w/e. The only reason she's getting nerfed at all is to quiet the raging community Jhin 46.4% winrate. He doesn't need buffs. Lucian Instead of buffing one champion, lets nerf 19 others. MasterYi 48% winrate. He doesn't need buffs. Tryndamere I would have liked to see other buffs than just damage, but thats neither here nor there. Azir Secondary damage on his soldiers is significantly reduced, cutting his waveclear, and reducing their damage in teamfights.

Flippy342/9/2018, 10:13:14 AM2 votes

I call bullshit "I lost vs Champ. Let's blame RIOT" I bet most of you QQing about recent stuff weren't here 4-5 seasons back in times champs like - Jax, old Graves, Kayle could won 1v5. Seriously LoL used to be harder and you actually had to learn something. From the balance point of view this is one of the best seasons so far. People will always cry when something new comes out because they don't know how to play against it.

JackMcSnipeyz2/9/2018, 1:22:01 PM2 votes

Twitch - nerfed damage Kog'maw - nerfed damage Shyvana - nerfed damage Katarina - Nerfed damage

Really easy just pointing out half the patch notes.

Not saying damage isnt too high, but lets not try to pretend riot never nerfs damage numbers, or CD or other shit

tieger052/10/2018, 8:38:58 AM2 votes

item 3089 too weak? Damage buff!!