Does looking at League depress you sometimes?

OtterlyLost·7/13/2018, 3:33:15 PM·9 votes·6,037 views

Hi. I'm an ADC main. I peaked last season at Silver 3 with a win rate of 53%; if I had continued playing ranked last season, I could have gotten gold but I petered out while I was involved in a low elo tournament. Too busy with practices, making team comps, and trying to research picks and bans. Climbing fell by the wayside.

I've been playing since early to mid season 5. I think I probably started a patch cycle after Gnar came out. I started playing because my now ex boyfriend and my current girlfriend got me into it. I had a lot of fun with the game, even after my ex dumped me and my girlfriend stopped playing. I started by playing coop vs AI and playing Gnar, who I thought was cute and spunky. I wasn't very good but its league; no one is their first season.

And then my girlfriend introduced me to Tristana. And she just clicked. It was kind of magical and instantaneous. Tristana was the champion I kind of grew up in League with. I've played many games with her, I feel like I know her very well, she's my main and, kind of, like a friend. I've played her since late season 5 and she's been wonderful and amazing. I didn't get to play her original iteration but that's okay. Reworked Tristana is the Tristana I feel close to and connected with.

And its through Tristana that I made a lot of other friends. Actual real player friends. Which is awesome because I'm very socially shy and anxious. People are hard. Mechanics and games are easy and they make people easier. And the best part of all this was when I fell out of a group of friends, due to my social anxiety or due to other outside factors, I still had Tristana.

I still had Tristana.

Except, like... now. I have her but she isn't fun. She's hard to make work now a days and I often get flamed for picking her. So I feel pressured to pick other ADCs, which is fine. That's happened before. Except they don't feel fun or satisfying to play either. And I still get flamed. And I'm left thinking, alot of the time,"Am I just bad?"

I try different rune set ups, I do build research, I watch what the pro play and build when they do actually play ADCs or Tristana. I've tried her mid and top and in the jungle. I want to play Tristana and I want to have fun. I don't want to lose who has become one of my nearest and dearest friends.

This sounds silly but when patch 8.11 hit, I tried for several days to play and win with the picks I had fun with. And then at the end of it, after tons of long and hard failure, I turned to my girlfriend and I cried. Because I'm not good enough apparently at the champion I've played for three seasons now to win and I'm not interested or invested to go out and learn a whole new champion pool that I don't have the same connection with. I felt completely shut out of the game. Both me and Tristana did. It felt awful.

Now I play some, but usually only one to two games every few days and only with friends. And even then I only play with those friends because they're kind of all I left. And everytime I look at league, I get a little bit sadder and more depressed. I hear about pros, like Reckless(who I always admired because he played Tristana in the first pro match I'd ever seen and gotten a penta on her; it was magical and really cool to me as a fledgling bouncing Tristana main), benching themselves because they feel they arent good enough for the current meta and how they're struggling to win games with their best champions at elos miles below their own. This just adds to it because, how sad is that? How sad is it to watch one of the best decide he isn't good enough at the champions he's practiced for years.

I admit to hanging around out of some vain, lingering hope that they'll fix things, that I'll be able to go back to the lane and the champions I love. But as each patch cycles goes by and things are continually left unaddressed, I lose more and more hope.

And I know that top and mid mains are going to try and come in here and try to tell me that I should just "adapt" and that every role has had the same thing happen to them but the fact of the matter is, no. Every role has not. Bruisers and tanks weren't suddenly both simultaneously deleted from the game in a single patch to allow mages and ADC to go top. Assassins and mages weren't both simultaneously deleted from the game to allow for bruisers and tanks mid lane.

And this isn't even touching on how the marksmen class is inherently different from every other class in the game. There are no classes that have skills that translate well from marksmen. It isn't like how bruisers and tanks have similar skillsets in that you need to know which situational item to build each game, when to go in, how to flank, which targets you want to focus, how to weave abilities in with AAs, when to go in, when to back out.

I'm not asking for bot lane diversity to go away. I'm not asking for my class to OP(not that it ever was). I'm just asking to be able to play the champions I enjoy. I dont want to play bruisers/mages/tanks/assassins. If I had, I would have learned them ages ago. Hell, at this point, I'm just exhausted and beat down... I'm not even asking for the ability to play my champions anymore. I'm just sad, tired, and isolated.

26 Comments

BlueBilberry7/13/2018, 5:25:31 PM5 votes

Support main, adc secondary. And, I can literally say that League has been painful this season. I've stopped ranked play altogether - and now just play the odd ARAM/normal with botgames in between - just so I can get some blue essence. And the weird thing is that I can't remember so many people being frustrated and/or toxic in game (even in those modes). Honors given out have dropped. And , things are really, really bad in terms of player morale.

I have already started installing some of the older games I was drawn to. It's only a matter of time before I just abandon the game for regular ol PVP in MMOs and start playing some battle royales.

heroikc7/13/2018, 4:34:27 PM4 votes

I know the feeling; been playing League since 5, having particular favorite champs that were fun at first but aren't as much so nowadays...particularly the part on Tristana (I was lucky to get two of her skins and loved her gameplay.) My condolences and hope they hear your plight up in Riot HQ.

IceKingChernobog7/14/2018, 4:07:23 AM3 votes

I feel where you’re coming from. Looking at the icon alone gives me an empty feeling. Matches are pretty much decided at 10 mins, 15 the latest. Damage is absolutely rediculious. Towers are just plain bad, huge patches are being shoved down our throat fastwe than we can even fully digest the previous ones. Playing adcs or Non S tier champions is practically inting at this point.

The effects are starting to show on esports as well. Players benching themselves cause they can’t adapt quickly enough, Pro players barely stream cause they’re busy analyzing what changed with the patches. Viewership has been on a decline as well. Recently i went back to ff14 and playing other games, i can only pray that riot gets their act together soon.

DNFVixen7/13/2018, 9:40:27 PM2 votes

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Hi. I'm an ADC main. I peaked last season at Silver 3 with a win rate of 53%; if I had continued playing ranked last season, I could have gotten gold but I petered out while I was involved in a low elo tournament. Too busy with practices, making team comps, and trying to research picks and bans. Climbing fell by the wayside.

I've been playing since early to mid season 5. I think I probably started a patch cycle after Gnar came out. I started playing because my now ex boyfriend and my current girlfriend got me into it. I had a lot of fun with the game, even after my ex dumped me and my girlfriend stopped playing. I started by playing coop vs AI and playing Gnar, who I thought was cute and spunky. I wasn't very good but its league; no one is their first season.

And then my girlfriend introduced me to Tristana. And she just clicked. It was kind of magical and instantaneous. Tristana was the champion I kind of grew up in League with. I've played many games with her, I feel like I know her very well, she's my main and, kind of, like a friend. I've played her since late season 5 and she's been wonderful and amazing. I didn't get to play her original iteration but that's okay. Reworked Tristana is the Tristana I feel close to and connected with.

And its through Tristana that I made a lot of other friends. Actual real player friends. Which is awesome because I'm very socially shy and anxious. People are hard. Mechanics and games are easy and they make people easier. And the best part of all this was when I fell out of a group of friends, due to my social anxiety or due to other outside factors, I still had Tristana.

I still had Tristana.

Except, like... now. I have her but she isn't fun. She's hard to make work now a days and I often get flamed for picking her. So I feel pressured to pick other ADCs, which is fine. That's happened before. Except they don't feel fun or satisfying to play either. And I still get flamed. And I'm left thinking, alot of the time,"Am I just bad?"

I try different rune set ups, I do build research, I watch what the pro play and build when they do actually play ADCs or Tristana. I've tried her mid and top and in the jungle. I want to play Tristana and I want to have fun. I don't want to lose who has become one of my nearest and dearest friends.

This sounds silly but when patch 8.11 hit, I tried for several days to play and win with the picks I had fun with. And then at the end of it, after tons of long and hard failure, I turned to my girlfriend and I cried. Because I'm not good enough apparently at the champion I've played for three seasons now to win and I'm not interested or invested to go out and learn a whole new champion pool that I don't have the same connection with. I felt completely shut out of the game. Both me and Tristana did. It felt awful.

Now I play some, but usually only one to two games every few days and only with friends. And even then I only play with those friends because they're kind of all I left. And everytime I look at league, I get a little bit sadder and more depressed. I hear about pros, like Reckless(who I always admired because he played Tristana in the first pro match I'd ever seen and gotten a penta on her; it was magical and really cool to me as a fledgling bouncing Tristana main), benching themselves because they feel they arent good enough for the current meta and how they're struggling to win games with their best champions at elos miles below their own. This just adds to it because, how sad is that? How sad is it to watch one of the best decide he isn't good enough at the champions he's practiced for years.

I admit to hanging around out of some vain, lingering hope that they'll fix things, that I'll be able to go back to the lane and the champions I love. But as each patch cycles goes by and things are continually left unaddressed, I lose more and more hope.

And I know that top and mid mains are going to try and come in here and try to tell me that I should just "adapt" and that every role has had the same thing happen to them but the fact of the matter is, no. Every role has not. Bruisers and tanks weren't suddenly both simultaneously deleted from the game in a single patch to allow mages and ADC to go top. Assassins and mages weren't both simultaneously deleted from the game to allow for bruisers and tanks mid lane.

And this isn't even touching on how the marksmen class is inherently different from every other class in the game. There are no classes that have skills that translate well from marksmen. It isn't like how bruisers and tanks have similar skillsets in that you need to know which situational item to build each game, when to go in, how to flank, which targets you want to focus, how to weave abilities in with AAs, when to go in, when to back out.

I'm not asking for bot lane diversity to go away. I'm not asking for my class to OP(not that it ever was). I'm just asking to be able to play the champions I enjoy. I dont want to play bruisers/mages/tanks/assassins. If I had, I would have learned them ages ago. Hell, at this point, I'm just exhausted and beat down... I'm not even asking for the ability to play my champions anymore. I'm just sad, tired, and isolated.

I been feeling depressed about league since this season started, the game has been getting worse from season 5 onward.

TyrekGoldenspear7/13/2018, 5:43:30 PM2 votes

I get what you're saying but what would you suggest.

I recall when adcs used to play in top, mid, and jungle. Not all at once of course but you get the idea.

It isn't fun when anybody's role gets taken but historically adcs could encroach on other roles' lanes while nobody could touch botlane except for two cases: Back in season 1 and I think 2 where anything goes and when the adc got a funky bruiser support or something.

My point is that while adcs have been situated botlane and have comfortably encroached on other lanes. And now that they can't do this anymore and when their lanes are getting threatened for once they have a problem.

Two wrongs don't make a right but I would like to know how you would resolve this.

P.S. Adcs haven't been deleted from botlane, it's just that other roles can play there now, when adcs have been mid, jungle, and top, other roles weren't deleted either.

insignificant7/13/2018, 10:02:32 PM2 votes

back to wizard101 it is

A Bad Varus7/13/2018, 10:10:59 PM2 votes

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Harden Stepback7/14/2018, 6:42:39 AM2 votes

The game is dying, it hurts me.

Summonah123697/13/2018, 8:59:38 PM1 votes

Yeah getting one-shotted by AP Nunu ult when you're at full hp slowly trying to run away from his ult is disgustingly broken and depressing.

Darius Strada7/13/2018, 6:30:04 PM1 votes

If you started playing the patch after Gnar release you started playing in Season 4, not 5

LordGeovanni7/14/2018, 3:23:00 PM1 votes

funny how it wasnt depressing when adcs got every defensive item nerfed So anyone building defenses had to sacrifice damage items to build more defenses and got every bruiser item nerfed so that they lost ad and it was replaced with half as much gold value hp. But crit items become more expensive (not loosing effiency just more expensive but still not as expensive as bruiser items) and the on hit adc path which was on top before crit items got their buffs to their cost some how isnt enough now that crit items got nerfs to their cost despite on hit items also getting buffs to their cost the same time crit items got nerfs to their cost. Ima top main mid secondary (because i never see mid so i always get my main role or auto filled support or jungle) Used to be support secondary and i can still pick up adc at any time and do great 3/5 of my games because im used to playing like a btch that will die at the slightest snease (which is not adcs because adc defenses was buffed when crit items changed because they cant give adcs real nerfs) because i dont want to play tank bruisers with all their damage comming from armor pen and hp scaling. I still play bruisers like they did in season 3-4 with AD ITEMS Not HP ITEMS.