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Yasuo, lord van damms pillager, and on related maps

1ncite·6/10/2015, 7:43:36 AM·1 votes·1,311 views

this is a reference to the latest patch 5.11 i just discovered something i am unsure if it is a bug or not. or if it is intended to be this way and just needs re-balanced but the way the new LVDP (lord van damm;s pillager) interacts with yasuos passive actually provides a BUFF to him from what i can see. because the way (IE) Infinity edge works with yasuo's passive is that the auto attack damage with an IE is 10% reduced from 250% for 225% and on his Q 25% reduced from 250% for 187.5% with LVDP if i am seeing this right his passive crit reduction does not apply to the unique burn meaning that his new LVDP crit damage is 180%+150% crit bleed and on Q 150%+150% crit bleed.

EVEN under the assumption that the bleed is refreshing only not stacking and we say only the first 1 second or 50% crit bonus goes through per attack the final numbers are

on AA 225% -> 230% on Q 187.5% -> 200%

this seems like a buff in the best case scenario

in conclusion the question is. is this buff intentional, a bug, or is my math wrong lol (math fails it happens)

pls let me know thanks for all your awesome updates and content!

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEfHt4lm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-06-10T08:28:42.661+0000)

you want to talk op interaction?

think of ashe. technically all of her auto attacks critically strike. which means she fully profits from the passive already the moment she grabs hatchet. on every. single. auto attack. yasuo still needs to build 50% crit chance to get the same out of the item. she can just build pillager, and the rest full ad if she wants to and still applies the passive with every single attack.

Props for seeing this i definitly agree it i a must rush on ashe however my concern is not for LVDP in this case (well maybe a little) rather it is mostly for the item building into it because ashe has a huge spike at IE just like this but getting a minor form of the passive early DEFINITELY is crazy good!

9 Comments

Critmaster Garen6/10/2015, 8:28:42 AM1 votes

the malus on his passive still applies. he crits for 10% damage less.

and yes, he fully profits from the pillager passive, as it scales with bonus ad and doesnt otherwise interact with critical strikes. seems intended to me.

i fail to see however how this is a buff. the way yasuo and crit works, was that he was always critting for 10% less with double crit chance. meaning i.e. still adds 50% crit damage, ending him at 240% total damage instead of 190% without i.e.

you want to talk op interaction?

think of ashe. technically all of her auto attacks critically strike. which means she fully profits from the passive already the moment she grabs hatchet. on every. single. auto attack. yasuo still needs to build 50% crit chance to get the same out of the item. she can just build pillager, and the rest full ad if she wants to and still applies the passive with every single attack.

Vistha Kai6/10/2015, 9:17:39 AM1 votes

That would be a buff assuming you don't hit them for 3 seconds. When does that happen? Only if they manage to flash away before you are able to finish them off.

It's a nerf and it makes me mad, because Yasuo's so weak he barely can survive being alone in lane with minions.