how do i win games by myself?

reiko57·3/11/2017, 12:21:22 AM·3 votes·967 views

I'm in bronze 4, i was silver 5 last season, i only started playing last june maybe? But i'm not too bad at the game, most of the time, i'll get all 3 lanes ahead early with a score like 3/0/3 or something only to end up losing these games later finishing with a score like 7/6/5. I was playing eve in the jungle, but it seemed like no matter how far ahead i got, i still needed my team mates. So i decided to play mid instead, and i lost a game last night where i was 16/4 with 90% kill participation, 4 of the enemy team were dead when we went for baron, i figured the jungler would smite it but the enemy volibear jumped the wall and stole it, we ended up losing. i guess ishould have flash/charmed the volibear or soemthing, but i killed all 4 of them in our base before we tried it and we only had 1 inhib up, so it was a last ditch effort kind of thing. I always feel like i'm going to win every game i start because my team has me at least, and i can really only think of one game i've lost all season that was my fault, i made the world's worst baron call and got my team clipped, oh well. i guess what i'm trying to piece together, is how everyone else climbed out of bronze with (presumably) the same quality of team mates I'm getting, how did they win all these games by themselves?

if someone would be willing to watch a couple of my games, maybe give me some pointers or something, i could gift you some RP or whatever else you like, but i'm doing something wrong, you can be 53-63 in bronze without doing something wrong, i just don't see what it is i could be doing to win these games, please help!

21 Comments

Doozku3/11/2017, 12:49:33 AM2 votes

You can't. With changes to how the game is played, hard carrying is nearly impossible. You need your teammates to do well or else you will be severely handicapped and your chances of winning gutted. Also the mentality of "my team is holding me back" isn't even very good. If you went even in every game, not even ahead, just even, you would still climb. This is because there are only 4 possible people on your team that could be feeders, while there are 5 possible players on the enemy team that could feed. So don't give that "The only reason I lost was my team" crap, because if you did atleast mediocre in every game, you would climb.

Tessel83/11/2017, 2:05:54 AM2 votes

While it's not exactly a "do this and win" type of thing (as I'm sure you've already figured out), it is, however, more the case of "how can i spoon feed my team and let them win the game". The most universal answer (for low elo, at least) is simple.

CC

If you cc the enemy, they can't kill you. It's as simple as that. Top, jungle, and support can all do this fairly well.

You can take Poppy, Shen, Maokai, etc. top Amumu for jungle Nautilus, Leona, or even Braum for support.

A big problem in low elo games is communication. People may not always be on the same page. These champs make it very simple.

If the flash ult half the enemy team. They want to fight. Easy. Anyone with their monitor on will know when to engage.

As for Mid and ADC (my two main roles), getting reliable damage always works for me. Mid is especially easy If you learn Ahri, Syndra, Luz, and even Orianna, to an extent. The are all very easy yet very impactful to the game at all stages. They all have at least some hard CC and/or good, AoE damage with very clear "go" buttons.

ADC, however, is a little different. ADC's are the meta slaves and if you don't adhere to the meta, you lose. Mostly, anyway. For ADC, the safest route is playing Jhin/Varus every game and just rolling with it. They have high damage and good CC to make simple plays to win the game. They fit well into most comps and are overall pretty good, right now. Other suitable picks are Caitlyn or Ashe, but that's really only if you don't need to self peel too much. If they have a sticky comp, don't play some immobile carries.

To conclude my essay, (sorry about that, by the way) I'll sum it up.

Draft CC in Support roles. Draft RELIABLE damage in Carry roles. Have definite go buttons.

Some parting words of advice: Ping Be kind Always type "GG", even it was not gg

Hope this helped!

Judge Steven3/11/2017, 10:18:48 PM2 votes

Try not to make the common low elo mistakes I finally figured out I was making last season. I finally realized I was making these mistakes after playing normals for most of last season looking to improve my "carry losing teams" skill. At this point, I could usually win my lane, but I was still losing about 40-50% of my games (sounds similar to what you described). After taking the good part of last season to really make an attempt to learn to carry teammates who lost lane, I call these patterns I noticed in my losing games the 7 deadly sins of lost games (listed below in no particular order):

**1. Defaulting to following your team around for ARAM midlane after laning phase. ** -This is probably one of the biggest things that comes to my mind when I remember things that held me back from winning games. This is the main reason that in season 5 and 6 I had 45-50% winrates and was hard stuck in low silver. The reason that doing this is so dangerous is because by always following your team and grouping mid to butt heads over and over you turn the game into a coin flip. It becomes which team has someone get blown up/caught out first and throw the fight or which team's carry gets focused last. Not a reliable method to carry at all in low elo; I know this now from experience. If I see my team still doing this when we're obviously losing teamfights, I'll usually splitpush or look to catch someone in the jungle instead.

Remember: Many team comps wont win through 5v5 fights alone, you may have to try other methods such as sieging, baiting objectives to catch someone, or split pushing depending on your team's composition and strengths.

2. Following a soon-to-be-dead ally into a losing fight.

-Also a big factor in losing games at low elo. I can't count the number of times I either participated in, or saw this happen in bronze-silver. If you see a lone ally with half health fighting 3 enemies who have mostly full health, do not be the "hero" who goes in to help and just ends up giving them a 2 for 1. Ping your teammates who try to help away from them, unless you have the clear advantage. It may seem cold to just leave them for dead, but it helps prevent even more deaths. Have personally seen numerous games thrown exactly this way at the 30+ minute mark, which leads to a pretty lame conclusion to a stressful and hard fought game.

3. Letting toxicity get to you.

-This one is fairly simple, don't let toxic teammates bring you down. Save yourself the time and headache by doing /mute all at the beginning and communicate via pings.

4. Chasing kills far beyond what you should.

-Happens mostly in bronze from what I recall, but chase enemies a reasonable amount (ex: until they burn flash, all your abilities are on cool down, or you risk dying by chasing them further) then move on if they escape you. Chasing a low health enemy for another 20s is a massive waste of time that just squanders any lead you may have and lets them get back in the game. Not to mention they could potentially bait you and your team into an ace if you chase long enough. Take/threaten an objective instead while they base.

5. Favoring kills over CS/objectives.

-Another big problem at low elo, CS/objectives should always be prioritized over kills. Don't get me wrong, kills are definitely a good thing, but far too often I have seen people drag out (and then lose) games by favoring kills, when taking objectives while the other team was dead or lacking numbers probably could have ended the game 5 mins ago. Have also made several comebacks from behind by focusing on CSing and objectives while the enemy team tries to pad their KDA and boast in all chat.

6. Forgetting to defend base/not pushing out lanes before fighting for objectives.

-This point is fairly important, but not really mentioned in most "escaping low elo" guides I see. The point behind pushing out lanes before grouping to take objectives is that if you lose the fight, the waves pushed to your enemy buys you time to defend while your team respawns. It's a play-from-behind tactic that can prolong the game long enough for late game team comps to become relevant. However, when doing this remember to ward up the jungle or river and constantly watch the minimap so you don't get caught while pushing out lanes. Forgetting to push lanes before an objective has sometimes lead to a near ace (3-4 dead on our team) near baron/dragon with a wave already pushing into our base, and the other team just waltzes in and wins basically for free.

7. Getting tilted and continuing to play ranked.

-Another simple point, but if you're tilted from last game just take a break. Emotions from last game can cloud your judgement and make you more likely to make a bad decision you would have caught had you not been tilted. I personally quit playing ranked for the day once I lose 3 ranked games (they don't have to be in a row).

Best of luck out there in ranked!

Eunson3/11/2017, 12:28:00 AM1 votes

Add me

sobi9993/14/2017, 6:07:05 PM1 votes

After a while i see a person generally not complaining about climbing. One thing which most people in lower elo negate ( myself including) is to not to push the wave whenever possible. You need to use your extra time when you might not have clear enough objective i.e. enemy team is mostly not visible due to lack of vision, to try to split push.

When i watch youtube videos of pros playing (not lck/lcs as they are too advanced for me) they have a great and i really mean it, a great map awareness. They know exactly where all of the enemy player are even those that are not visible as they just saw them a while back and probably can guess where their next destination is. These people would generally know that when an enemy jung is top then this is the best time to break bot turret or take a dragon and etc. Your team has a huge impact on your performance since lol is a MOBA and there are many other things pro's can teach both of us but i just told you what i thought most beginners including myself ignore. I mean i am still pretty crappy with map awareness but i generally have a good idea if something is fishy i.e. if you see a shaco missing in team fight or a zed goes away from team fight or when someone baits you to his enemy team.

Lastly. you must always keep pressurizing the enemy team. Whenever you kill 2-3 enemies make sure to break a turret if possible and negate enemy control over vision using oracles and to keep them farming at their base. I also see so many players when they break inhibitors to relax and chill. You must pressurize the enemy even more if you just broke the inhibitor before it is repaired. If you see the enemy has alot of AOE then ignore team fights and try to split push. In LCS they all make sure to counterpick so they usually always fight in teams. I hope i helped eventhough i need alot of help myself. GLHF on the rift :D

BlackFlux3/11/2017, 12:36:47 AM1 votes

I ain't in it for the RP but where can I find these replays?

Proxy3453/11/2017, 12:41:50 AM1 votes

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