Why can't we have Kass ult's range increased as it stacks up?

I think it might be cool in reverse actually. It let's Kassadin be more likely to kill/escape with the first jump but plays with the cost increase to make subsequent jumps more of a price.

One stack: 700 Two stacks: 650

And so on. Might be cool.

I suggested this as a potential fix when they first introduced the nerf to Riftwalk, but people downvoted it for some reason.

Either way, I think its a great way to keep in line with the intended power of his ultimate without destroying his ult's identity.

Yes! Brilliant! Then eventually he'll be able to jump across the entire map in URF!!!

interesting idea, would be great if Rioter could see this

I think a simple system would be for it to scale with the Ultimate level:

Level 1: 500 Level 2: 600 Level 3: 700

Don't get me wrong, laning against a Kassadin with anything that's not AD was a nightmare once he hit 6, and that power should definitely be adjusted, along with his roaming power. But a champ who's "defined" by mobility should probably be better at it than pretty much everyone else.

I thought you wanted more range on Petrifying Gaze. Kass not Cass Cuz...

for clarity, something with growing range on ennemy champion seems a bit hard to introduce if it has no limite (imagine how you can block his escape if you don't know visualy how far he can get).

On the other hand, as I read above, reducing the range as he use it wouldn't introduce this problem as, if you guess he is max range all the time you still manage to catch him in a area

yeah reverse would work alot better imo

Why can't the cooldown just be upped and be done with it. I'm sick of his identity blah blah blah. As long as he can jump around the way he does he either won't do enough damage to do anything meaningful or he'll be perma banned always. It's past time for Riot to give up on this one and just rework his ult.

Very interesting idea. I like it.

good idea. me next

This is a pretty good idea actually....

It would be really cool, but I don't think Riot would do this. It would lack clarity, and that's what Riot is all about right now.

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That's actually a really good idea. Kass can no longer escape as effectively if he has to stack up his ult but at the same time he still is very mobile.

Well, you guys think too much. riot nerf kass only because ppl use him too much lol.

Because GD proposes this solution, Riot have to figure out something else now. :^)

this is great because it's also logical. he spends more mana to blink further, it's perfect

They just need to upgrade kassadin ult range in general.

Yeah the reverse range seems far better so he isn't a monster late game and so he can't follow up if he uses his ult incorrectly.

i think ramping up range is a great idea for a champion who is build around mobility.

can't wait for riot to do this and have people rage at the pure mana troll builds that will dash from 1 side of the map to the other.

something like

because people complained for no reason, banned him for no reason other than not knowing how to play against him because he was banned for no reason and so rito fired the nukes and now hes just never gonna be played or banned.

I do like the reverse ideas I'm seeing in the comments here though, for having lower distances per stack gained; much more viable than nerf the range to oblivion and keep the mana & cd costs at ridiculous levels.

If it has a cap i agree but I just see a mana damage Kassadin gaining so much momentum that he'd have a damaging teleport.

I think they should make Kassadin ult range increase as 6,11 and 16... like 6: 450 (6secs CD), 11: 600 (7.5 secs CD), 16: 750(9secs CD) (like normal), in addition with increase in CD in ult... I'm no challenger, but I think this will be a big nerf to kass (not as much as it is right now) to his early game. Plus, his ult at lvl 6 at 450 already made him harder to lane early game (because enemy can gank because of his shorter ult range); therefore delay his late game scaling. In addition, if he is super fed early game... The extend CD on his lv 16 ult should delay the gap time between ult. (assuming the 20secs reset on kass still apply as normal). What do you guys think? This is just my opinion so feel free to disagree and reason it out :D.

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I think all of you are onto something here. I don't play Kassy but these sound reasonable.

And so on.

You could have easily just wrote the 4th stack because 4 is the cap.

I was thinking the exact same thing today. If they can make the range 550/600/650 at least on his 3 levels, it should be enough.

Rnage changes are inherently unfair. Imagine you are a Varus playing against a Kassadin. You position yourself such that his jump can't reach you but you can still damage their frontline. Wrong. It just so happens that ten seconds ago, Kassadin jumped twice.

If you can't reliably read an enemies ranges in a fight, you are completely fucked.

for one your lowest range is higher than the current kass range and two that would make him a a mana based champ that is probably the reason