I see many people complain about new Champions having multiple passives...

Leonde·2/25/2015, 3:43:52 AM·4 votes·1,026 views

This is not new. And none of these champions are very new.

Then there are the unforgivable, who have entire abilities that are solely passives.

People often use the "multiple passives" card in their arguments as to why new Champions tend to overshadow older ones. This is not the case. The only difference is that newer Champions tend to attach it to their Ultimate or normal Passive as opposed to a basic ability.

Is this really a valid argument when you consider so many older Champions, many of which are of the original 40, also have multiple passives?

(Feel free to point out any mistakes or champions I may have missed.)

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Lumus Avatar2/25/2015, 3:52:16 AM1 votes

Years and years ago, before League existed, I played DotA on Warcraft III. The mechanics of the game were limited by the mechanics of Warcraft III, but many champions had abilities that had no active component and existed solely as a passive. There was a champion that got dodge as an ability - it passively added miss chance to incoming attacks.

This is where League began from. taking these established ideas and modifying them into what we now call League.

One thing league has that surprised me was abilities that have a passive AND active component. Garen's Courage, for example.

What needs to be remembered is that passive effects are expensive in the sense of a power budget. So the hope is that the champion with the passive effect is trading out some active power to get that passive. Garen has low mobility (not counting his activation of decisive strike) and low damage potential. But he has an impressive amount of tankiness and regen in exchange.

Kouga2/25/2015, 3:55:45 AM1 votes

Amumu: 1) Passive reduces MR on hit, that's it. No secondary. Ashe: 1) Focus for critical strikes. No secondary effects. Blitzcrank: 1) Mana shield. No secondary passive. Darius: 1) Enemies bleed for damage. 2) Gains MS for bleedinge enemies. Technically 2 different effects, although both tied into the same status effect. So arguable. Fiora: 1) Gains health regen when dealing damate. No secondary effects.

Well, I'm 5 champs into your argument and you have 1 maybe. I'm not going to continue until I figure out if you mean something different? Because so far of the champions you are saying "these guys have multiple passives" don't have multiple passives.

TehNACHO2/25/2015, 3:56:25 AM1 votes

It's funny because one of League's biggest highlight champions, especially when it comes to the Boards Community it seems, only has one passive.

Unless you consider being blind, yet still being able to see perfectly, is a hidden passive LeeSin .

To be completely frank, my opinion has always been that the champion's whole is way, way more important than the sum of its parts. I don't care if a champion has 2, 3, or even 12 passives in their kit as a whole, so long as they still feel cohesive and not overpowered when you look at the champion as a whole and stop trying to look at it as a sum of its (many) parts.