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Nasus shouldn't be opressive as much as he is

Glacier Gang 050·3/10/2019, 9:49:32 AM·3 votes·2,272 views

This sort of thread probably was made at least once after his unreasonable buff he got earlier this year. From then, Nasus became an unkillable one shot machine. Everything he is NOT supposed to be, nor any other champion should be. Trinity force combined with 5 other tank items that gives him 3k+ HP, armor and magic resistance plus improved healing (spirit visage) and one shot power (Q stacks buff, making him have 600+ stacks in 20 minutes if played correctly) all together with an almost URF cooldown on W where you won't get away from one wither (W) while he's already placing another one on you is just not counterable by any means. On top of his slow that he has on almost no cooldown, he also cripples (slows down your attack speed) while most usually already having frozen heart built so it goes twice as bad. Before the buff you could deal with him usually with ranged champions such as Gnar, or Quinn as a lane bully. Now, that's not possible. There is not a single champion in the game that can duel nasus in a 1v1 while both on full build. Not even true damage helps against that thing. He shouldn't be able to run 500ms (phage) plus slowing you and one shoting everything that's not a full tank. Which he will kill eventually too, believe me. Just the second you think you've killed a Nasus, he will ult, gain 600HP from it, 3 MR and armor each second and 50% cd reduced on his Q so he can ensure his healing kicks in and he gets back to full hp in no time. On top of it he deals maximum 240 aoe damage while ulted PER SECOND just for being near you, and let's be real, with Wither (W) he will always be near you. He needs to get nerfed. His W duration should be gutted in half, his stacking shouldn't be 50 per one stupid minion and having 30-40-50% cooldown reducing on Q per ult level seems just fine.

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Jamaree3/10/2019, 10:34:22 AM10 votes

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This sort of thread probably was made at least once after his unreasonable buff he got earlier this year. From then, Nasus became an unkillable one shot machine. Everything he is NOT supposed to be, nor any other champion should be.

He has always done that, Nasus has done this since his inception, nothing has changed, the only things he has really even gotten in his kit besides buffs, is a removal of the delay on his E to be instant, and his Q having half CD when he ultis.

Trinity force combined with 5 other tank items that gives him 3k+ HP, armor and magic resistance plus improved healing (spirit visage) and one shot power (Q stacks buff, making him have 600+ stacks in 20 minutes if played correctly)

If a Nasus has full build and 600 Q at 20 minutes, you fucked up, this literally isn't possible unless you purposely feed him.

all together with an almost URF cooldown on W where you won't get away from one wither (W) while he's already placing another one on you is just not counterable by any means. On top of his slow that he has on almost no cooldown, he also cripples (slows down your attack speed) while most usually already having frozen heart built so it goes twice as bad. Before the buff you could deal with him usually with ranged champions such as Gnar, or Quinn as a lane bully.

Can we please for the love of god stop this? Can we actually stop just writing out champion's kits? Literally every champion in the game sounds broken when you just write out the positives of their kits and ignore their downsides, here, watch.

Why is this champion allowed to have AD shred, Armor Shred, MR Shred, the largest AoE in the game, a sustain so free that he literally doesn't need to cast spells for it or even hit things for it, true damage, as well as chase down potential in a low CD slow that acts like an AA reset, oh wait...that's Trundle >.>

Now, that's not possible. There is not a single champion in the game that can duel nasus in a 1v1 while both on full build. Not even true damage helps against that thing. He shouldn't be able to run 500ms (phage) plus slowing you and one shoting everything that's not a full tank. Which he will kill eventually too, believe me. Just the second you think you've killed a Nasus, he will ult, gain 600HP from it, 3 MR and armor each second and 50% cd reduced on his Q so he can ensure his healing kicks in and he gets back to full hp in no time. On top of it he deals maximum 240 aoe damage while ulted PER SECOND just for being near you, and let's be real, with Wither (W) he will always be near you. He needs to get nerfed. His W duration should be gutted in half, his stacking shouldn't be 50 per one stupid minion and having 30-40-50% cooldown reducing on Q per ult level seems just fine.

If you let Nasus get to full build, yeah, he does that, again, this is a concept that has never changed since his inception, you don't beat Nasus by fighting him 1 vs 1 at end game because that is how his kit works, that is how he functions, it is a concept that hasn't changed and because of it, he has needed these buffs to stay relevant. If you let Nasus free farm and get to that point, yes, you are going to lose and because of that, his early game is piss poor weak and he loses to just about every champion in the game.

Z3Sleeper3/10/2019, 10:54:14 AM4 votes

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There is not a single champion in the game that can duel nasus in a 1v1 while both on full build.

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Really you shouldn't be 1v1'ing him anyway. He's super immobile and dies fast as hell vs 2 or more enemies since he can only wither 1 of them.

ZephyrDrake3/10/2019, 11:04:53 AM4 votes

ok... why do people keep using "1v1s" s like that is the only thing that matters while balancing a champion? for instance just because you cannot 1v1 a Fiora with Soraka doesn't make Fiora "broken" or Soraka "weak". Some champions are great in 1v1 scenarios, some are great early, some are great late, some are average to above average throughout the game, some fall off slightly towards the end, some get slightly better towards the end, some champions weaknesses are grouping while others weaknesses might just be isolating them from their team, some champions are better at flanking than others while others rather just run at you in a straight line. How you deal with a champion isn't as simple as "I can't 1v1 them therefore broken!" you have to take into consideration EVERYTHING about that champion not just one little thing about it

Schenix3/10/2019, 10:17:03 AM3 votes

He has a point and click CC that lasts 5 entire seconds.

Also innate life steal, which is good to mitigate harass, but becomes very out of hand if you can't continually go in on him or harass him constantly.

Just is rather safe for how fast he scales now, but certainly manageable. There are worse champions to go in on than Nasus who has weaknesses and strengths rather written out.

Pupel3/10/2019, 1:16:25 PM2 votes

Pretty sure if I look up this guys rank he will be like bronze 1. Complaining about Nasus is just a testament to how little you know about the game and how bad you are at laning.

Smurfraka3/11/2019, 3:36:38 PM2 votes

People will reply that Nasus isn't really a problem at even medium elos, and they're right, but it still doesn't mean that his design isn't unhealthy and binary. He's an outdated pubstomper that keeps under the radar because he's not good at any important stage. Without reworking him, wither either needs to be a skillshot or less severe, because the gameplay pattern of brainlessly pressing W, walking up to you, and spamming Q is just toxic. It's the same thing with Tryndamere, the buffs won't do much, but they still shouldn't be buffing them because they're cancer.