Theres kinda only one way to fix Diana.

Ragnaveil·1/27/2020, 6:41:29 PM·12 votes·8,090 views

Remove her assassin playstyle. This is the same exact problem Irelia's rework had, but they decided to go down the assassin route (I hardly call her a fighter anymore, she just bursts). She must become a bruiser, simple as that.

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Yenn1/27/2020, 7:08:21 PM6 votes

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Remove her assassin playstyle. This is the same exact problem Irelia's rework had, but they decided to go down the assassin route (I hardly call her a fighter anymore, she just bursts). She must become a bruiser, simple as that.

We don't have AP bruiser itemization, so options here are pretty limited. They tried this with Sylas and it failed for exactly this reason.

Mordekaiser works, but it's because he's relatively immobile. I can't see any way to make this work with Diana unless her entire kit is replaced and she loses her identity.

freeformline1/28/2020, 2:06:58 AM3 votes

I've wanted Diana to be a proper bruiser for years. I was pretty disappointed that her new ult was just a big nuke rather than something that would make her better at staying in the fight, like a shield, enemy damage debuff, CC resistance, or personal damage reduction.

Crescent Dusk1/28/2020, 3:05:04 AM2 votes

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Remove her assassin playstyle. This is the same exact problem Irelia's rework had, but they decided to go down the assassin route (I hardly call her a fighter anymore, she just bursts). She must become a bruiser, simple as that.

She does not have enough sustain or base HP/defenses to function as a bruiser, however, and her ult would become utterly useless unless it applied a strong slow like Leona's after hitting if it received a nerf in damage (alternatively, you could halve the damage and make it apply a slow to enemies and heal Diana per enemy hit).

You try Diana top lane and you'll quickly realize she does not have the stats to function as a bruiser, and even if you gave her strong sustained damage, she would be outclassed by Sett/Darius and Kled who have hard CC available much more frequently in order to make picks.

And there's the fact AP bruiser customization does not exist. No Sterak's shield, no black cleaver for fat HP+ AP+ aoe MR shredding, no GA to keep attacking with a built in aatrox ult, and no AP equivalent to Triforce since no AP item mimicks Phage Rush. Kled/Renekton bring shield bust and grievous wounds+stun/root, Darius and Morde bring native MR/armor pen to build more offensive, Garen gets armor shred and a silence, and Sett gets an aoe stun, and a frontline hop that does %hp aoe damage based on the tankiness of who he grabbed while slowing on top of a true damage nuke linked with a far shield.

Diana's utility, survival, sustained damage, and CC is nonexistent, so that's why she must function as an assassin. You would need to rebuild much of her kit in order to be able to justify the toning down of her burst.

kamakazzi1/28/2020, 5:27:14 AM2 votes

Completely agree. Rework forced her to build assassin, since now the only way to proc Aftershock is on her R which has 120 sec cooldown. Very hard for her to play bruiser after rework. League needs more AP bruisers! We have enough assasins. And the main problem with building her as an assassin imo is that she gets easily beat by other true assassins.

SweedishGunner1/28/2020, 1:10:59 AM2 votes

Diana rework was a mistake.

Sire Hippington1/28/2020, 5:12:01 AM1 votes

The easiest way to do that is removeing the bonus damage per target on ult and instead give her a % damage reduction per target, so engageing with her ult gives her the survivabillity she needs as a bruiser in teamfights instead of cutting the healthbars of an entiere team in half.

Other than that, i'd like to see the passive AS beeing reduced but her base AS increased so AS items are more powerfull and full AP builts get less AA dps, paired with a bit better base damage on the passive proc.

I'd also love to see her W beeing changed to it's og-release version, or atleast haveing the base buffed with maybe less HP scaleing. It might sound wierd that i don't want to have the HP scaleing for bruiser diana, but honestly, mage itemisation has just as much HP to abuse that, and it goes against one interesting aspect of strong shields: They enable low HP bruiser builts that focus on armor/MR and AP and rely on the shield instead of HP for to back it up, which was something i enjpyed alot on bruiser diana in earlyer seasons. But with her current tuneing, you are still forced into rather HP heavy builts if you want survivabillity because the shield has a horrible base value and relies on the rather high hp scaleing.

As for the 'no AP bruiser itemization' arguments, i think by giving her more scaleing with AS and defstats opposed to HP and only AP, items like item 3091 or item 3110 should become decent options. That said, Moonflair spellblade would still be a nice addition in some form, and a proper Armor/AP option that hasn't half it's power put into a stasis active is long overdue.

xelaker1/28/2020, 5:51:41 AM1 votes

Gut her until new people work in the balance department and can actually balance things.

CRIMSONFKR1/28/2020, 6:48:59 AM1 votes

Diana always been played as a assassin she barely even played as a bruiser with the lack of any ap bruiser items in the game.

The rework just made able to fight early game, and not have the kassadin syndrome of waiting til 6 to become a champion.

Of you want her to be more bruiser like ap needs to get bruiser items like ad champs but that never gonna happen.

2gudaiya1/28/2020, 10:25:50 AM1 votes

what's the problem with diana now?

sirus otter1/28/2020, 1:29:10 PM1 votes

or yknow, just revert her because the switch between her e and r was rediculous and should have never happened

GFREEMEN1/29/2020, 12:15:51 AM1 votes

Her burst damage combo is unavoidable.

She fishes. If she hits thats it. W>E>Auto

You take full W damage and if prepted her auto is bonus damage (and if she has sheen item thats on top of that)

There is no avoiding the damage. Its BRAINDEAD easy to pull off and all it takes is to fish a Q out on every CD.