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My personal opinion on reworks

Tobsters·1/12/2016, 6:44:09 PM·3 votes·538 views

You consider me a retard for this post but I want to give my opinion.

Why does it take a very long time for Riot to rework a champion? We all know that there are many champions who need reworks(possibly 25% champions of the game) and everyone demands a rework for them. Serioulsy for how many years was it asked a rework for galio, yorick, urgot, taric, etc? Many champions highly need a vu like eve, swain, jax, kennen, irelia, fiddle, etc......

So you're going to say because it takes a long time to design a new champion or rework one? Then how did riot manage to release 2 champions every month in season 1 and 2, even if riot had a small team back then? New champion means new visuals. Abilities, animations, quotes, and 2 skins for him...

What's difference between old and new champions? Is it the huge amount of quotes they have? And recall animation, better visuals, and some other stuff. Do these really need months to design?

Riot also managed to do semi-reworks to 6 champions in one patch (adc update) and to 4 juggernauts in one patch. Why don't they give underpowered or underplayed champions these kind of reworks, instead of making us wait for years?

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Critmaster Garen1/12/2016, 6:52:35 PM3 votes

{quoted} Then how did riot manage to release 2 champions every month in season 1 and 2?

those are a lot of the champions that had to be reworked afterwards.

theyre trying to put more thought into them than they used to and make their kits more unique.

lightdragoon881/12/2016, 6:53:18 PM3 votes

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You consider me a retard for this post but I want to give my opinion.

Well that will depend on not what you write, but HOW you write it.

Why does it take a very long time for Riot to rework a champion? We all know that there are many champions who need reworks(possibly 25% champions of the game) and everyone demands a rework for them. Serioulsy for how many years was it asked a rework for galio, yorick, urgot, taric, etc? Many champions highly need a vu like eve, swain, jax, kennen, irelia, fiddle, etc......

Main reason is making a new kit that still defines what that champ currently is. While it is easy to make a completely new kit, if it doesn't match with what that champ is, then it doesn't work. Turning Fiddlestick into a ADC that shoots corn is a lot different then what we know as a mage that uses crows.

Add to that, while it may seem easy to come up with new abilities, you have to make sure it BALANCE with everything and is approved. They don't go with just the first idea someone has and shipped it out, they test it many many times before deciding to keep it or toss it and try again. That takes time.

So you're going to say because it takes a long time to design a new champion or rework one? Then how did riot manage to release 2 champions every month in season 1 and 2, even if riot had a small team back then? New champion means new visuals. Abilities, animations, quotes, and 2 skins for him...

Most of those were already done back before the game was release. Think of it as games do today with DLC.

What's difference between old and new champions? Is it the huge amount of quotes they have? And recall animation, better visuals, and some other stuff. Do these really need months to design?

Mostly coming up with something new. Back then when there were so few it was easy to make a fire champ, a monkey champ, a plant champ, a champ with transforming abilities.

But now with so many, it can be difficult to make a new champ that does something new and is not just "X champion 2.0"

Pika3101/12/2016, 7:07:11 PM1 votes

Rito employees get paid by the hour, not by how much work they accomplish. They've said more than once that the majority of their work hours are spent watching pro games or playing ranked/ARAM. I've discussed making changes with a gameplay Ritoer that said changing an ability solely on its numbers and functionality can literally be done in a matter of minutes while simultaneously eating their lunch. It takes just as long writing a comment about it for the next patch notes as it does actually coding the change itself.