Swain’s Q Cooldown

Blood Gød·8/29/2019, 12:22:14 PM·1 votes·1,191 views

Swain’s Q cooldown is an issue. Over on r/Swainmains, our problem is that Swain, who is supposed to be a battlemage, has no DPS. His Q relies on you being up close and personal, yet if I blow my combo and my target is still not dead, there’s nothing I can do but stand there and wait for it to come back up, BUT my enemy is now in my face. It feels incredibly clunky and awkward. Please, just test a revert on the PBE, reduce his Q’s damage even if that’s the necessary trade off. The ability just doesn’t have any sort of real use currently.

5 Comments

Pxerkza8/29/2019, 12:25:36 PM1 votes

the issue i have with him is it not piercing on champion kills

Schenix8/29/2019, 3:06:29 PM1 votes

That's a poor way of wording it. "I use my abilities and they're not dead"

That would make you a burst mage. Swain was pushed in the right direction, gaining sustain to keep up trades. The issue is just that his Q requires him to be too close now and gets outtraded, keeping him relegated to a burst pattern of E - W - Passive - Q trade, and not enough tankiness to dps ratio to keep up in the midgame until like 5 items where he's almost too much to deal with alongside his team (but still not so dangerous alone). He's a teamfight mage with a safe enough laning phase that also enables ganks.

He is not at all bad after the changes, just a little less satisfying than what you would expect. Buffing his Q range back gave him the safety he needed, but as a battle mage, you might expect to be able to use the ability a bit more often and stick to targets, rather than be like an offshoot of Sion who offers CC and a bit of damage, but mainly exists as deterrent zone control and damage soaking.

A battle mages safety is usually inherently tied to their ability to keep up a skirmish and stick to the enemy or kite them, which Swain struggles to do and instead, has power elsewhere. It's still power, just... not what you would think a battle mage might entail until late game. I would honestly call him a control mage.

Tahminatrix 8/30/2019, 3:53:43 AM1 votes

His q doesn't do all that much during laning phase, that's when I tend to only fight when I have e & w to do short trades.

If you really want his q to hit hard asap, I suggest you build item 3020 & item 3916 because a large amount of the damage on it is simply the base damage.