League of Legends autofill system is becoming worse

KillerPaulXD·12/29/2016, 10:22:40 AM·17 votes·2,272 views

I thought the autofill system would only autofill me to the most demanding role (aka. support) ... But just now, I got autofilled as an adc, and I didn't even buy a legit adc... And then, someone dodged and I got autofilled as a jg, and I didn't even buy a legit jg... So, I guess I requested for being duo top, instead of a jg who feed big times. And obviously yup, it's an unfair game and my team lost. Like wtf... Why would we choose our primary and secondary role if we get autofilled in other different roles so frequently... The chance of autofilling is around 2 out of 10 games.

Why would you expect everyone to play every role, if you provide an option to choose primary/secondary role? It's like a boss who allows his subordinates to choose their area of expertise, and tell them that 'you will promote if you ace every aspects of our companies, except for the ones within your area of expertise'.

Will Dyrus be good if you tell him to play support in challenger ranked? Will Boxbox be good if you tell him to play adc?

Last but not least, if you expect everyone to be good at every role, but STILL has to choose his/her primary/secondary role, then why don't you just bring back the old ranked system, where everyone has an equal chance of choosing each role? This is better than tilting teammates due to a feeder who got autofilled/first time jungle

32 Comments

ZephyrDrake12/29/2016, 10:27:17 AM5 votes

no one said that you would only autofill for the support role. Autofill's job is to reduce queue times by placing you in a role that is needed atm. If a bunch of supports are queuing at one time but not enough of something else, if you have to autofill then you will fill whatever that something else is. Whether is ADC or Jungler or Mid or Top, it doesn't matter

Quepha12/29/2016, 5:31:04 PM4 votes

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Why would we choose our primary and secondary role if we get autofilled in other different roles so frequently...

Because you still get your favorite roles more often than without the system.

Why would you expect everyone to play every role, if you provide an option to choose primary/secondary role?

Because it's good for everyone to know every role and the game told you auto-fill was on and you may end up playing any role.

Remember there was a time before role selector when everyone had to be prepared to play any role because the only way to figure out who plays in each position was to bicker in champ select.

King of Demons12/29/2016, 5:38:21 PM3 votes

Don't forget that you can actually queue for support now without getting it 80% of the time. That's a huge plus for players like me that queue up Mid/Support.

Oleandervine12/29/2016, 3:24:43 PM3 votes

Learn to play each role. A basic understanding of how to play the game in general will ensure you don't feed, and then learning how to apply that to each role is simple. It's not rocket science. Play safe and engage with your team.

Prior to season 6, players had to be prepared for every role because none were guaranteed. It made older players much better at the game because we are adaptable and don't have an absolute meltdown when we don't get our top role.

Dynikus12/29/2016, 11:16:23 AM3 votes

Will Dyrus be good if you tell him to play support in challenger ranked? Will Boxbox be good if you tell him to play adc?

yes, because they both know how to play every role.

NoobLearninGame12/29/2016, 12:11:51 PM3 votes

I've suggested several times that Support be the ONLY fill role, that way you only need to be prepared for 3 roles. It's the best compromise from what I can see.

NoobTangerang12/29/2016, 7:45:58 PM2 votes

Not to mention, rune pages and champions cost so damn much...

Korillo12/29/2016, 1:51:43 PM2 votes

While I also don't like autofill, it's kind of unreasonable to go into ranked without having at least 1 champion capable of playing each role.

NoobLearninGame12/29/2016, 12:20:13 PM2 votes

Screw you and your downvote.

DarkRitual12/29/2016, 3:19:33 PM2 votes

Role selection, queue times, fair matchmaking.

It's impossible to have all three perfectly balanced.

If you had to choose, would you rather:

  1. 10-20 min queue times, before anyone has a chance to dodge, but you get chosen roles and fair matches
  2. Play widely unfair matches, but get into matches fairly quickly and your chosen roles
  3. Lower queues with fair matches, but might not get your chosen roles

Of course, the severity of all three vaires widely for a number of reasons, but in order to boost one of the three points up, one of the others needs to be decreased.

FioraWillCarry12/29/2016, 9:00:59 PM1 votes

People are still complaining about autofill ? God it's been so long now and you guys haven't figured out how to beat it yet ? If you're waiting for a match for more than 3 minutes, you'd likely be auto-filled so restart the queue if the wait is too long. If someone dodges, restart the queue. It's literally that easy to avoid being auto-filled. I can get my primary 100% of the time if I wanted. The system works based on the time it takes to find you a lobby of ten players. Players that have been waiting for 4+ minutes are likely gonna be auto-filled. If you get a lobby in a minute, you're likely gonna get your primary. Just keep an eye on the timer while you're waiting to be matched.

Zydron12/29/2016, 5:12:29 PM1 votes

My friend got autofilled to mid yesterday haha

Dryditch12/29/2016, 5:25:10 PM1 votes

You couldn't be bothered to spend the 900 IP required to buy two of the cheapest champions in the game--Sivir/Ashe and Poppy/Kayle/Amumu so you'd have at least one champ for each role before going into a ranked game where you aren't guaranteed your roles? What in the world is even happening here?

NoobLearninGame12/29/2016, 7:59:24 PM1 votes

So my understanding based on some of these responses is that while we have the best solution within reach, we should instead live as if that solution is not within reach? Back when we had the old system I also would advocate knowing at least 2 champions in every role, because it was expected that you'd have to fill each of the 5 roles at some point (and in spite of that I very rarely played mid/adc, and I still suck at them, proven by how poorly I usually did if I were forced into those roles, especially ADC, at least in Ranked games).

Now I've to clarify by stating I've played overall far fewer PvP matches than most people who started playing in late Season 3, so that among other reasons gives me plenty of excuse for why I've played an extremely small number of PvP matches even in Normals as ADC, and only a bit more as Mid making me slightly less incompetent at that role. It's not uncommon that I've seen Diamond players state that you're never going to get truly good at all 5 roles because quite simply nobody has time to do so, at best you can just learn to not feed, and hope to get carried, or that your lane opponent blows more than you do, or has a particularly bad game (lucky for you, since you are not ranked-ready for that role).

I mean, I can easily get Gold or above I'd guess if I only ever had to play Jungle (I can't prove that, but if I played nearly as many games as a lot of other people do, I'd not be surprised to have hit high-plat/somewhere in diamond by now [I've a lot of other interests that keep me from playing/progressing in this particular game, but I'd love for it to be in the best possible/most enjoyable state for everyone's sake, and being autofilled into any of the 5 roles rather than only needing to be prepared for 3 roles just seems really dumb to me]). On the other hand I don't feel comfortable that I'm capable of carrying with any other role, and I don't particularly enjoy any other role so far by comparison with Jungle, but I in the past (when there was no other option) would suck it up and accept that I've to play all of the other roles potentially (and would even try to calm the complaints of others who didn't like it, but showed them I understood their frustration with the poorly thought out system we were forced to operate within).

Now, with the fact that we have autofill, and we have the new champion select, let's not be luddite-minded souls, and accept that we can in fact make it so that you only have to be prepared for 3 out of 5 roles for a given Ranked match. That way people who for example don't have a lot of Rune pages will be prepared for all of the roles that they KNOW they will have to be prepared for. It's A LOT easier to be prepared for 3 roles than 5 roles at any given time. Even if I were once prepared for all 5 roles, which I was early on when I started playing PvP, I found out which roles I didn't enjoy as much, and proceeded to stop playing them for the most part, resulting in that preparedness fading away with time.

Having knowledge of all 5 roles is good, I'm not denying that, and yes knowing how each role functions will improve your game knowledge for a variety of reasons that will make you better at other roles you choose to main, but that does not mean you should then necessarily be forced to play those roles randomly when you're not prepared for them. All that is required for autofill is the Support role (in terms of making Queue-Times short), I don't have the numbers/statistics Riot has but I'LL BET removing anything but Support as something you can get autofilled for, leaving you with 3 potential roles, will only increase queue times by something like 1 minute at most on average.

PLENTY OF PEOPLE would rather play roles they are ready for and enjoy, rather than either be forced to dodge, or play a role they don't want to play for up to 60 minutes of their day. Many people if not most people would be happy to wait an extra minute or so for people to actually choose to be one of the roles that someone would otherwise be autofilled for, besides Support, which should be the only autofill role.

That's why I say, the best compromise for everyone is to only have to be prepared for 3 roles, by making Support the only role that you can be autofilled for, it's simple, it will work, and it's the only way the majority will be happy in the end. To me this is no different to when I was right about Dynamic Queue, and wanted Solo-Queue to return from the time of the inception of DQ. In fact I still want a Pure Solo-Queue without Duos, Duos are free to join Flex Queue.

Anyway, however things end up going, regardless of who or how many disagree with me, as far as I'm concerned, unless you can prove me wrong, and it's not just opinions of yours, I'm right, and I'm a majority of one (assuming everyone disagrees with me, which I highly doubt, but people are free to be a vocal minority and downvote because they lack a proper argument).

Calabok12/29/2016, 8:43:58 PM1 votes

feel free to Dodge as much as you like.[slayer-jinx-wink]